Another Scientist Jumps Ship

I was horrified to hear on the grapevine yesterday that Al Lewis has resigned from the American Physical Society. A likeable New Yoiker rogue, Lewis in his letter of resignation to APS president Curtis G. Callan Jr, reportedly said of the Climategate e-mails, I don’t believe that any real physicist, nay scientist, can read that stuff without revulsion. I would almost make that revulsion a definition of the word scientist.

Not only has the APS lost its only member capable of turning into a bat, and the owner of the coolest hot rod in television history, but one who was rumoured to have unlocked the secret of immortality, and feared death not at all (except for wooden stakes).


Re-wrote the laws of physics


In fact, he—

Hold on a moment, there’s an e-mail in my in-box. It’s covered in exclamation marks…

Uh huh… uh huh…

It’s from Dr Dave. He says if I pull any $&@& like this again, his buddies down the road at NORAD will use the Ozboy estate for ICBM target practice.

OK Dave. Duly noted. (sigh)

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161 Responses to Another Scientist Jumps Ship

  1. Dr. Dave says:

    WTF are you talking about? All of the ICBMs are pointed at the communist sympathizers in the the UK!

  2. Amanda says:

    Oz, I think you’ll find his name is Hal (Harold Lewis).

    Um, Amanda – roll your mouse over Al’s picture at the top – Oz 😉

  3. Blackswan says:

    G’day Oz

    Al’s, or was it Herman’s hot-rod was brilliant.
    How to take Grandpa for a Sunday-drive without Gramps even having to “get out of bed”.

    I liked Lily too. Her own woman. Never saw the need to dye her grey streak and a drapery of cobwebs the mark of a house-proud woman.

    The Addams Family was fun – pity they and the Munsters never teamed up. Now THAT neighbourhood would have rocked.

    As for the resignation letter, makes Hal as big an oddity as Al.

    Still, we can be grateful for small mercies. Went looking for the banner headlines in the Oz MSM – nary a peep. But then we already knew that didn’t we?

  4. Amanda says:

    Okeydoke, Oz.

    Does Al tell fortunes as well as getting wise to warmist crap? And if so, would he like to be my sugar daddy?

  5. Amanda says:

    that should be MAKE fortunes, not tell ’em. Give me the palm of a well-heeled, well-spoken Burgundy-drinking man and I can do that myself!

  6. Pointman says:

    So good, I’ve got to share.


  7. Ravenscar says:

    Dr. Dave says:
    October 10, 2010 at 10:48 am

    It ain’t the commies that should be worrying you, it’s other dark forces now, keep those minuteman silo’s primed and in readiness but give us a buzz a couple of hours before you launch, I wanna get down to the pub!


  8. hctroubador says:

    Nicely done Oz!

    I have been looking for other MSM stories about this and they are as rare as hen’s teeth!

    Also, anyone notice how buried in the English media the little EDL punch-up in Leicester was? They weren’t even bothered to go to the default position and paint it as the actions of racist skinhead hooligans.

    Nothing like a free media as a pillar of democracy.

  9. Amanda says:

    That’s beautiful and quite different from the usual sorts of covers. My favourite version (as I may have mentioned before, if so, pardon) is posted on the jukebox page.

  10. hctroubador says:

    I have an acoustic version by Stevie Ray Vaughan that’s probably my favorite. Worked my little fingers to the bone to make a passable cover I did. My best party trick 🙂

  11. hctroubador says:

    …and then I go find the Jukebox page and there it is! Not only are you a woman of charm and inestimable sense, you can add exquisite taste to your honour roll.

  12. Still waiting for the CO2-filled Hindenberg to dock at the Empire State Building…..

    Oh, well, a little mood music for when all the King’s horses and all the King’s men won’t be able to put Humpty Mann back together again… Yay-esss.

  13. Pointman says:

    Sun cools? How daft!

    “Valiant efforts of British physicists to deny that the Sun is important in climate change have always been good for a laugh.”

    The comment “Three years of data gets you published in Nature these days, huh?” says a lot about the decline of the once august journal.


  14. Amanda says:

    Walt: Thanks for your interesting suggestions. Whatever I do, it won’t be with Mr in tow. He is mired in a daily work crisis of agonizing proportions, poor bloke. I hardly see him these days, never mind have time for fun. Anyway, he can’t dance.

  15. Amanda says:

    HCTroubador: Those are lovely compliments but did you see the link I put up above and do you still think my taste exquisite? Vulgar is vulgar even in Arabic. Still, jam’s all right at breakfast even if we wouldn’t want it at dinner with best BBQd pork ribs!

  16. Edward says:

    Pointman says:
    October 11, 2010 at 4:35 am

    ‘Nature’, has long since given up the ghost as a serious scientific periodical.
    New Scientist beat it (uttering inane advocacy’s of pseudo scientific endeavours) by many years.
    Now though, the two vie – neck and neck, objectivity a commodity in very short supply and scientific integrity departed, via the (always open for business office) window and through which the ‘fragrant grease’ is paid.


  17. Dr. Dave says:

    In his resignation letter, Hal Lewis (the real Hal Lewis, as opposed to “Grandpa” Al Lewis) invoked the words of President Dwight Eisenhower in his farewell speech in 1961 when he warned against a scientific-technological complex (akin to the better known military-industrial complex described in the same speech). Politics corrupts nearly everything it touches. This is manifestly obvious with the AGW fraud. Science is too easily hijacked by political advocacy when there’s money (big money) involved.

    So here is my question. Should governments fund science and, if so, what science?

    This topic is frequently debated on conservative and libertarian blogs in America. There are two main schools of thought. The purists maintain that all scientific inquiry should be the purview of the private sector. They make a very good case for their position. A whole bunch of life changing innovations were developed without a nickel of government support; modern electric lighting, the electrical grid, telegraphy, the telephone, radio, TV, the airplane, mass produced automobiles, computers, modern agriculture, etc. Government stepped in (in a big way) in the 1940s with the Manhattan Project. But even then the theoretical physics that made the fission bomb a reality had been worked out decades earlier. The Manhattan Project was mostly an engineering marvel made possible by massive federal funding. The Soviet and American space programs are other examples of direct, massive government funding of science and engineering. However, even today the private sector does most of the heavy lifting. Just look at cell phone technology and communications in general, computers, aviation, drug development, music reproduction, transportation, you name it. Government has had their hand in relatively little of the development of those things that make our lives better…yet they continue to spend our money like drunken sailors.

    Personally, I think there are areas of scientific inquiry where government funding is appropriate. These are few and far between. They include such fields as particle physics, astronomy…and (sadly) climatology. What private industry would fund the Hubble telescope or pay for weather satellites? So the ultimate question is how do we continue to allow governments to subsidize climate research without having said research utterly corrupted by politics?

    Nail on the head, Dave. As long as politicians are the ones deciding what gets the funding, and at what levels, the problem of the politicization of science will continue. And as long as scientists regard their livelihood, and lifestyle, as contingent on their reaching conclusions conforming with their benefactors’ political aims, science to that extent remains tainted – Oz

  18. Blackswan says:


    “Electricity costs rose from $16.14 a week in 2005 to be, by June, $26.05 a week or $339 a quarter – an increase of more than 60 per cent.

    This is why CAGW Fraud matters. These price hikes are being blamed on infrastructure maintenance but the only “infrastructure” gorging on all this cash are useless wind turbine and PV panel subsidies.

    When families are having to choose between food/heat and paying a 60% increase in Energy bills, surely we’ve reached a crisis.

    And not a single word in the MSM about Hal Lewis’ exposure of this Scientific Fraud.

  19. Pointman says:

    There’s something about a woman drummer – just love them. They’re rare as Polar bears …


    They’re about Pointy – just have to know where to look.


  20. Dr. Dave says:


    I fear I have to agree with you on this one. I believe the Corrs are an Irish band. Almost as unusual is their use of the pennywhistle. Unfortunately, this John Prine version of a favorite song was performed without the pennywhistle, but I thought I’d include it anyway:

  21. Pointman says:

    Doctor, Doctor blues. I gotta lot of faith in you …


  22. mlpinaus says:

    Blackswan says:
    October 11, 2010 at 8:51 am

    MSM ? Not sure that they are the main stream any more….. for a while it might have been the television news, ….. more immediate…. but when they started competing for ads by stuffing around with “time slots” it became just another thing to turn off. My father in law gives each of his daughters the Advertiser for a year; a singularly awful daily drab.
    I skim the headlines and read the Phantom, my wife does the crossword…. Getting grumpy, ……….

  23. Amanda says:

    Dare I ask how Pointy came to know about rather obscure pre-War American blues etc.?

  24. Blackswan says:

    G’day Marcus

    Did you have a Phantom ring? Mine was a treasured possession for many years. If I still had those original comics from my childhood, I’d be able to afford those power bills…lol

    Isn’t it maddening to know all this AGW Fraud is collapsing O/S and not a word here?

    Don’t get grumpy…… bloody furious should do it. Tho’ it’s not working for me.

    Maybe Pointman has a point………..

    Don’t you luv it?

  25. Pointman says:

    Amanda says:
    October 11, 2010 at 11:05 am

    Aretha said she was influence by Etta


  26. Pointman says:

    Billy said she was influenced by Bessie


  27. Pointman says:

    Bessie said she was influenced by Ma Blainey but that was before recorded sound. Gone like tears in the rain …


  28. Blackswan says:

    Thanks Pointman, some great music there…

  29. Amanda says:

    Pointman: Yeah, that’s a nice bit of history, esp. Etta James. But what turned you on to them?

  30. Amanda says:

    What’s not to love in Eva’s voice? It’s the slightly rough edge, sweet as in honey not sweet as in extra fine… Also depth of tone. Something closer to a rainbow in every note rather than just one colour.

  31. mlpinaus says:

    Blackswan says:
    October 11, 2010 at 11:09 am
    Yes!!! The Phantom ring…. I think I remember it was 2/6 at the time…. a small fortune to be saved for.
    The world just marches to another band…. AGW is falling apart, yet Julia charges forward?????shit towards a carbon tax as another way of control upon the peasants. Us.
    At least the next generation can be convinced otherwise. My son has used Walt’s information on super critical steam to un-green two of his mates….. A tiny victory for the Internet.
    Fury is pretty much my rest state.


  32. Pointman says:

    Amanda says:
    October 11, 2010 at 11:36 am

    Because you never know what a talented singer can do with a song, you never know. This song, I never particularly liked and Judy Garland owned it anyway but I tried it out. Hairs stood up on the back of my neck as I listened to it. Don’t try to sing along to this, you’ll be suffering oxygen starvation and she’ll still be soaring upwards. One of America’s lost treasures.


  33. mlpinaus:

    Keep the faith. It took the West from 1933 to 1942 to actually come to the universal realization that in fact the Jerries were trundling not only Jews, but union rank and file, their capitalist bosses and plant owners, Romani, the mentally ill, POW’s, priests, nuns, pastors, and practically anyone who could eat a sandwich and walk (try it sometime, it is not that easy lol), into the gas chambers. We seem to have put paid to these Bosche in the time between the Dopehagen Discord until now, less than a year. It took almost that long just to break out properly from the Normandy beachhead.

    Truth, as does the Phantom, walks the land, quietly, unseen, but delivering justice like a personal message from the Creator, to the just, as a Xmas card, to the unjust, like a court summons.

  34. Pointman says:

    Ghost Who Walks Bear says:
    October 11, 2010 at 11:53 am

    A Deus Irae walks the land, dispensing justice as only a growly bear can do. Run for cover you Greenies.


  35. Pointman,

    Yip Harburg also wrote the lyrics to a song which will again be very topical, called, “Buddy, Can You Spare A Dime?”

    The original:

  36. Blackswan says:


    If you could get your offspring to even hear you you’ve had a brilliant victory. For him to “pass it on” is even sweeter still. Good job – angst does have some rewards.

    Mr Walker Bear Sir,

    In the scheme of things, less than a year has been remarkable for the web of lies to unravel, I just wish that Lady Justice would take her blindfold off and set some court dates.


    Thanks for the tip on Eva – tried a few of her songs and that sound would rend the heart of a marble statue.

    As for Aussie Greenies, no such luck. These SOBs have signed an alliance with Jooolya and their position is unassailable. We can’t get any mention of AGW challenges here.
    Hence Marcus’ frustration (and mine).

  37. Pointman says:

    Jeez Walt, you got me going now. Try some schnozzle. Life don’t get any better …


  38. Amanda says:

    Pointman: Well I certainly wouldn’t get into a singing contest with the late Eva Cassidy. On the other hand, I write my own songs, and I wouldn’t trade that for having the best voice or technique in the world.


  39. Yup. It took us under a year to see these beggars off. Guess they don’t make national socialist totalitarians like they used to. (Sigh)

  40. Amanda says:

    Walt: Your last post is a walk down someone’s memory lane… My great-grandpa in London was a piano player, who wrote sheet music and played along to the silent films (and great-grandma was a singer who played the Albert Hall, until they broke her heart by telling her she was too old to sing).

  41. Amanda says:

    Walt: Sigh! Have you been round James Delingpole’s blog lately (like, today)?

  42. Blackswan says:

    Mr Walker Bear – best chaser of black dogs I know.

  43. Blackswan says:
    October 11, 2010 at 12:15 pm

    The Muse Justitia is busy sharpening her sword at the moment, but following the elections in November, at least 16 major court cases are to be heard between mid-November and January 1st respecting everything to the EPA’s current reg’s to the Katrina AGW lawsuit, to another State of Virginia versus Michael Mann lawsuit.

    I feel quite sure She wields, like Prince Valiant, a singing sword that shall ring sweet and true as it lops off lots of heads, arms and assorted other body parts that shall forever go unnamed but rhyme with “tricks and walls.”

  44. Pray did your grandmother sing to the troops in a music hall, by any chance?

    No, I haven’t been to the Deling Pole site, but off I go to have a gander….

  45. mlpinaus says:

    Ghost Who Walks Bear says:
    October 11, 2010 at 11:53 am
    I hope so. The outing of the truth is something that I never considered would be a result of the Internet. Porn yes. Truth….. no. I think our political masters don’t like it…. but for now it’s not controllable. It is like a global “back fence”, and people just talk across it , as they always have. Any dirty linen is very visible……

  46. Amanda says:

    No, she sang The Messiah.

  47. Amanda says:

    Blackswan: Porn disgusts me, whether words or pictures. It’s a complete betrayal of the truly human. ‘Behold yourself: are you proud of what you see?’

  48. Pointman says:

    She could really sing. Nobody should be that talented. From big band Jazz

    to country

    and there’s lots more.


  49. Amanda, dahling. I just love your comments as a one-two act in conjunction with Crownarmourer. Better than Burns and Allen.

    I like the recommendation to hug the polar bears. Come to me, my little greentard lovelies, G_d wants to have a cup of tea with your lot personally in camera.

  50. Blackswan says:

    Amanda says:
    October 11, 2010 at 12:34 pm

    “Blackswan: Porn disgusts me…”

    Please explain yourself.

  51. Amanda, it’s great-grandmother. Surely she sang music hall? Can you spare us a name, please? Perhaps there is a recording of her out on the Net. Have you checked?

    Some of those music hall sing-a-long songs were delightfully vile, enough to make today’s singing acrobats blush.

  52. Pointman,

    I used to pound the daylights out of this at least once a week on the backporch upright piano with a buddy on guitar doing the vocals. Derek and the Dominoes did a bangup version of this, too.

  53. Pointman says:

    Amanda says:
    October 11, 2010 at 12:34 pm

    A variation of “Ecce Homo”, in all its ambiguity. The interesting question is where does eroticism become pornography? Any brave soul out there going to go for that one?


  54. Ghos Who Walks Bear….
    everyone else get your parents permission, some bad language.

    Giacomo Casanova….. to paraphrase him said that sex without love would be a rather squalid affair.

  55. Pointman says:

    Ghost Who Walks Bear says:
    October 11, 2010 at 12:46 pm

    “Derek and the Dominoes” = Eric Clapton and a few mates. Layla and that’s some jump


  56. Amanda says:

    Walt: That’s funny, I think Meltemian said the same thing. Or someone did. Crown is my first Internet friend. (Well, not really: my first Internet friend I fell in love with.) He’s the first one I noticed as a regular on Delingpole’s blog, some time last Fall. I love Crown’s sense of humour and his very, very deep decency. And I love his brilliant run-on sentences. People tend to misunderestimate him, but they did that to someone else rather important, as I recall.

  57. Pointman to quote Terry Pratchett the difference between the erotic and perversion is the use of one feather rather than the whole chicken.

  58. Having worked an internet porn blocker for a living the line between the erotic and pornography is hard to judge forgive the pun. However if it’s “art” then it’s erotic porn is the rest. We blocked both as our workforce could not tell the difference.

  59. amanda why that’s very nice of you to say them nice things and people misunderestimate you as well they mistake your kind nature for weakness.

    We have all made lots of new friends via the DT blogs from all over the world and despite some minor differences of opinion everyone seems to have a decent moral compass and ethics.

  60. Amanda says:

    Crown: As usual, I agree! And thank you for those nice words back :^)

  61. Amanda says:

    Crown: re the whole chicken: Yes, but it IS rather interesting to contemplate the Minoan wall paintings, with their ladies in full-length gowns and breasts fully out there, nipples ‘n all. Would that put one off one’s noisettes of lamb or not?

  62. Blackswan says:

    Amanda says:
    October 11, 2010 at 12:34 pm

    “Blackswan: Porn disgusts me…”

    Would you explain why you would use my name and porn in the same sentence?

  63. Amanda says:

    Sorry Blackswan. It was a comment by Mlpinaus, not you. He hadn’t been part of the chat till then and I have been listening attentively to music with the blog on the side. My apologies.

  64. Pointman says:

    This is erotic but then again, I have a weakness for Catherine Deneuve. There really is a difference …


  65. mlpinaus says:

    Confusion all about us…..

    mlpinaus says:
    October 11, 2010 at 12:30 pm
    Ghost Who Walks Bear says:
    October 11, 2010 at 11:53 am
    I hope so. The outing of the truth is something that I never considered would be a result of the Internet. Porn yes. Truth….. no.


  66. amanda the ancient world was full of erotic and pornographic art work but I do not think they would make the distinction as we do with our judeo-christian sensibilities.
    They had a concern with fertility and fecundity which we do not.
    However in answer to your question no it would not put put me off my lamb as it falls under the label of “art” if I am not mistaken they also show anatomically correct males jumping over bulls would that put you off your dinner.

  67. Blackswan says:

    Amanda says:
    October 11, 2010 at 1:26 pm

    “My apologies.”

    Thank you.

    I don’t know how Marcus’ comment could be twisted into meaning anything other than what he said. Maybe it’s he to whom you owe an apology.

  68. Pointman were those ladies from Quebec?

  69. Amanda says:

    Blackswan, get off your high horse, luv. I didn’t insult anyone. I don’t owe him an apology — or you either, if the truth be told. He mentioned porn: I said it disgusts me. Statement of fact. Though I made a mistake over the poster (through inattentiveness), I wasn’t trying to damn anybody. Don’t be so bloomin’ touchy.

  70. Amanda says:

    Crown, as a matter of fact, no I would rather not see correct males while eating dinner. Time and a place and all that. I’d rather see a frog looking at me with shiny eyes and hopping round the table.

  71. Blackswan says:

    Swans don’t ride horses, er – luv.

  72. Amanda says:

    Pointman: What about the champagne scene — going from a very faint memory here — in My Beautiful Laundrette?

  73. Amanda says:

    That’s all right, Blackswan. Rodeos are for Texans ;^)

  74. Amanda says:

    Yes, I’m still up. Can’t tear myself away from the music, though I’ll pay for it in the morning.

    Texas is a good place, even though I’ve been known to moan about it. She thinks so, too, does Miss Rodeo Texas:

  75. Blackswan however swans have been known to ravish beautiful maidens, Zeus was a bit funny like that, I’m sure that’s how Donald Duck came about.

  76. Blackswan says:


    It was Daffy – being the same plumage an’ all.

  77. Something has occurred to me the sceptic crowd has yet again hammered the AGW crowd and now we have Cancun looming isn’t it a bit odd that suddenly yet again like clockwork comments are being removed from the DT at a record pace trying hard to disrupt serious discussion and the moderators are more than happy to oblige as they did last time. Everyone ends up getting upset at the removals to focus on the task at hand.

  78. Blackswan being a northern hemispheric deity he would be white plumed. Since that brings me to the logical question who is the father of Daffy Duck and as he is way before your time you are eliminated as a suspect.

  79. Blackswan says:

    The day my boy Daffy met the host of the B&G

    Yikes Oz – there’s a $5,000 price on your head!!

  80. Blackswan says:


    I’m a very old swan

  81. Ozboy says:

    I’m guessing the Barmy Army on this year’s Ashes tour will be larger than normal. Not so much cricket fans as climate refugees.

    – Ozboy, on JD-DT blog 5 hours ago (in reference to upcoming British winter).

    This comment was flagged for review.

    And James wonders why so many of his posters are now in self-imposed exile down here?

  82. Blackswan says:

    It ‘s simple – the B&G offers better fare.

    It’s those pork pies, pickled eggs and jellied eels that are a turn-off in JD’s establishment – not to mention getting a glassing from a foul-mouthed yob for your trouble.

  83. Walt O'Bruin says:

    It is really going to get messy from here on out in the States and in the UK vis a vis AGW and the many lawsuits coming to bear (heh, heh) between now and the first. The DT wants to maintain as chaos-meistered a stance as possible so that regardless of how the purges and lawsuits go depending on which sides wins, their arses are covered.

    It would be silly to tank a newspaper that survived two world wars, a major depression which this one is not–yet– and the Blitz over a single issue. If they take sides without a certainty of the issue’s outcome and they misjudge, the entire newsrag folds, this time forever.

    You and I well know in our heart of hearts that it has come to this sorry pass, just as in Oswald Moseley’s day. When the BUF was declared sympathetic to the enemy and therefore illegal, those newspapers which supported them disappeared into oblivion overnight. They are dithering on purpose, which requires lots of fine tuning in this idiotic age of “emotional intelligence” where tears trump logic and the avoidance of pain is the highest ethic.

  84. Walt O'Bruin says:

    Ripping if the Grauniad misstepped, wot? Bwahahahaha! They’ve dug themselves too deep a hole already, whereas the DT has maintained sweet, dear old Goofus Lean with faithful kindness even though it would be satisfying to launch him on the maiden flight of the S.S. CO2 Zeppelin down a ramp off the cliffs of Dover. They can therefore certify their coverage is balanced.

    Irate and distraught investors in wind who have lost it all when the State decides this is horse puckey and tears down the towers will come looking for any and all publications which indicated in the slightest that this was to have been a good investment opportunity. And that’s only the tip of the iceberg on which I am perched, waiting for the S.S. Greentard to crunch into my lookout point’s blue-green submerged hidden bow-cruncher.

  85. Blackswan says:


    The Australian Meedja are like the Japanese holdouts on Pacific Islands in WW2 – refuse to acknowledge defeat, and it just didn’t happen.

    Twenty years after the AGW Fraudsters have been charged, the local MSM will still be printing Green/Labor media releases talking-up Renewable investments and justifying taxes for wind-toy/PV subsidies.

  86. Damocles admits to a conspiracy on the James D blog….”Ok, you got me. I, along with Tom Chivers, Kate Day, Damian Thompson and little Will Heaven, am part of a global conspiracy to stifle James Delingpole in the run up to Cancun. His increasingly deranged behaviour is due to the fact that he hasn’t posted a blog himself in the last 3 months. A purpose built clone is taking his place while he is imprisoned in the basement of Canary Wharf.”

  87. Walt O'Bruin says:

    Out of boredom, I went to the Dead Turtle to James’ blog for an “erm” and a “wot.” I rather liked Crownie’s and Amandita’s comments, and disliked Damocles, so I reported all his comments and recommended all Crownarmourer’s and Amanda’s.

    At’s ‘ow hit’s s’posed ta work, royt?

  88. Walt O'Bruin says:

    The Dickless Bloggo’s could be a fun gamesite for resolving once and for all who can do the most reports and recommends in the shortest period of time.

    The name of the game should be something like, oh, “Moderator Heart Attack Inducement” or “30 Meter Moderator Toss.” Sumpin lahk thet.

  89. mlpinaus says:

    Blackswan says:
    October 11, 2010 at 5:05 pm
    Fraid you are right… I thought it would be the New Zealanders holding out till last, but with our press and ABC……. No. But the bread I just baked smells great, the afternoon sun is slanting in and making the spring growth look fresh and new….. time to count my blessings as my late mother would have said.

  90. Walt O'Bruin says:

    Blackswan says:
    October 11, 2010 at 5:05 pm

    So yer still larfin at your MP’s Adam Sandler-type “Wedding Singer” haircut, eh? No wonder you Oznauts are so fun-lovin’.

  91. Walt O'Bruin says:

    Used to like big hair meself. Enough hairspray and it doubled as a crash helmet.

  92. mlpinaus says:

    Walt O’Bruin says:
    October 11, 2010 at 5:20 pm

    When one had hair, to like, or otherwise….


  93. Blackswan says:

    mlpinaus says:
    October 11, 2010 at 5:18 pm

    Nothing like the smell of fresh-baked bread to put the world to rights.

    The Kiwi’s Carbon Tax came into effect on July 1 and now they’re really kicking at the huge surge in prices. Never gets a mention here.

    I too thought they were more likely to be hold-outs after they banned nuclear subs etc, but I guess you wave enough cash at folks and they all have a price.

    PS Ever tried baking olive & sun-dried tomato sour dough? Be still, my orgasmic taste buds.

  94. Walt O’Bruin…. The name of the game should be something like, oh, “Moderator Heart Attack Inducement” or “30 Meter Moderator Toss.” Sumpin lahk thet.

    Anyone want to play I’m up for it. About a few thousand comments to review in an hour, of course they will just do a blanket remove but the initial panic attack will be worth it.

  95. Blackswan says:


    This trollop has her own live-in hairdresser – takes him big tata’s as well – all on the taxpayer dollar. Still, it allowed her other main squeeze to go back to his wife and children – she just put him in her Cabinet to compensate.

    Wonder what else is stashed in that closet?

  96. Blackswan sounds like good bread, we baked peanut butter, chocolate chip and walnut cookies today or rather the missus did I mostly watched except for the heavy mixing.

  97. Blackswan says:

    Tell the truth – you licked the bowl too.

  98. mlpinaus says:

    Blackswan says:
    October 11, 2010 at 5:41 pm
    The bread is just Lauke mills flour. Must be in the genes. My great to the 2nd power grandmother was Mary Dunn, sister of John Dunn, the miller. Just makes the house smell “right” though.


  99. Blackswan says:

    mlpinaus says:
    October 11, 2010 at 5:58 pm

    My great grandpa was a baker from Pontypridd in Wales. Must be genetic memory.

  100. Blackswan…Tell the truth – you licked the bowl too.
    Alas no the dough comes away completely from bowl and it all goes into cookies.

  101. Blackswan says:


    Drat. A bake-day’s spoons and bowls are good fun.

  102. Blackswan the missus cooks a lot tonight it was the mega hot chili from hell.

  103. Well time for beddy byes got work waiting, oh joy in the morning.

  104. Blackswan says:

    G’nite Crown

    You put in a good day at the DT.

  105. Pointman says:

    Blackswan says:
    October 11, 2010 at 5:53 pm

    Why can’t he just pull the chain like everyone else?


  106. Blackswan says:

    Pointman says:
    October 11, 2010 at 9:02 pm

    Good one Pointy – I guess that’d save pickin’ the bits out of his teeth.

  107. meltemian says:

    Well SOMEONE in Oz is researching the causes of AGW

  108. meltemian says:

    Afternoon All by the way – sorry.
    Just recovering from yesterday’s trawl through the DT. You were all very busy on JD’s blog – I couldn’t keep up!

  109. Locusts says:

    Mars carbon dioxide finding hints at ancient life
    Mars was once rich in carbon dioxide – hinting that the Red Planet once harboured life.

    I thought carbon dioxide was evil?

  110. Hair Bear says:

    meltemian says:
    October 11, 2010 at 11:13 pm

    Oh, my, no, my dear. I’ve an unreasonably thick mop that I may comb in any direction without fear of a glistening reflection blinding pilots flying overhead. It makes The Donald look foolish not to simply embrace the fact that he shares similar hair-related genes to any number of highly respected hair challenged persons. I would hazard there is parity in number between the hair-challenged and hair-covered male domes in terms of being sex symbols, too. Telly Savalas, Yul Brynner, that fellow from “Frasier,” all enjoy that status, while shaved heads are the rule with almost every third man in the Western fashion world now.

    Almost every male begins life and ends life resembling Winston Churchill. Embrace it. Imagine if he had worn a combover LOL We’d all be speaking German as a first language now. The problem now, it seems, is not a surfeit or loss of hair nor not for most men to recapture youth in their senior years as to act their age with poise and confidence.

    I posted a couple of pix of me on a prior OzBoy blog.

  111. meltemian says:

    Thank heavens for that!
    Must have missed the pix – I’ll go hunting.

  112. Pointman says:

    Willis Eschenbach going to town on Michael Mann’s piece in the Washington Post. It reads more like the trial og Michael Mann. No wonder he’s worried.


  113. Amanda says:

    Pointman, thanks for the link. The whole take-down is great, but I love the bit esp. about ‘you haven’t even been investigated, much less exonerated’.

  114. Amanda says:

    Headline: NFL’s beloved Favre probed in sex scandal. Is the last half of that line a joke?

  115. Amanda we have a new entrant in the list of suspects to people who are waging a campaign of “politeness” on the DT blogs specifically James D’s blog Tom Chivers he is an AGW believer. In his zeal to impose his version of morality he may be responsible for a lot of the damage being done. That is just a suspicion and in alliance with his little friend are indirectly killing James D’s blog. Best theory so far I think they are trying to smother the blog under the guise of manners which is well intentioned but ultimately misguided.

  116. Amanda says:

    Crown, well, I don’t know who this Chivers chap is — though saw his comment to you this morning, complete with his photy, and again he claimed not to like shouting and name-calling but those aren’t the types of posts that are getting deleted. The trolls are just as rude if not ruder than the regulars they provoke, and yet they seem to get preferential treatment. (I esp. dislike Grunty who is for the most part an utter twerp who adds zero to the discussion. He’s careful not to say anything reportable but I don’t like visiting the blog when he’s there.) One also has to ask: who is this Damocles and why is he the self-appointed moral arbiter of Delingpole’s blog? Is he getting paid? I remember months back James made a comment to him — this was pre-Disqus — something like ‘glad you’re taking such an interest in my career, Damocles’, to which His Smugness replied, ‘It passes the time’. Now I ask you: who hangs out sniping at the regulars –BUT NOT AT THE TROLLS–just because ‘it passes the time’.

    As for Chivers, he doesn’t like ‘eco-fascist’ and he doesn’t like ‘conspiracy’. Well hello! in the first place we’re trying to decide a type of person, a type of thinking: would he also ban ‘Islamofascist’ (but not homophobe, presumably)? And as for conspiracy, what we mainly talk about is an ‘agenda’ but either way, what if for the sake of argument there WERE one? Would we not be able to talk about it because Tom Chivers doesn’t like that word? First thing that Leftists do to shut down debate — as in immigration, where you are not allowed in public documents or courtrooms (in at least one state) to speak of ‘illegal aliens’ or ‘illegal immigrants’. How can you deliberate as citizens about illegal immigration if you are not even allowed by law to use the relevant — indeed the only relevant — words? It may be that Chivers is a kumbaya Pollyanna, but I doubt it: he probably knows perfectly well what he’s doing and why, to his discredit.

    Puts me right off. I shouldn’t be on the blog(s) so much anyway: as C. asked me yesterday: ‘How’s that novel going?’ And of course I just grinned sheepishly. Then he asked wouldn’t I prefer to be reading Trollope or the relevant research for the book — and of course he’s right. Then he mentioned the ‘opportunity costs’ of blogging instead of all the other things I could and should be doing. Then I said to him ‘it’s addicting’. But the fact is I’m not doing my work. When I said way back in January that I wasn’t going to visit James’s blog any more, it was (as I said at the time) because of work (though there were one or two other reasons besides). Obviously, that self-imposed exile didn’t last very long. But I shall have to attempt, if not exile, then rationing. With the creeps on Delingpoles these days, that shouldn’t be too difficult. If I can cut it down to one blog that I visit, e.g. this one and yours when you post something, that should help. And even then I should restrict it to the late hours when I’m not up for anything else (right now I’m doing my ironing, yawn).

  117. Amanda says:

    Sorry that should be ‘describe a type’ not ‘decide’.

  118. Amanda says:

    Been having Internet trouble and it makes editing difficult and spotty. I meant to say that what Leftists do is curtail or dictate the terms, the permissible speech. You can’t talk about what you don’t have words for, if the words are banned.

  119. Amanda says:

    Walt, thanks for giving me and Crown the thumbs-up.

  120. amanda yes it is addictive and likewise I need to stop except during certain hours. I used to read everyone’s comments but nowadays I don’t have the time. Pointman and Walt probably have the right idea and stay away 99.999% of the time. Is it worth messing around with effing leftie loonies intent on stifling real debate. They actually train them to do that in University’s here in the USA saw one lady in action she acted as moderator I was an observer it was an extra credit thing for the missus the whole thing was about discrimination. It was really about hate whitey and why only African americans are real victims every other group was not. Which is why my wife wanted me there to see for myself the left in action.

  121. Amanda says:

    Wow. Mind you I’m not surprised.

  122. fenbeagle my best guess is they have been reporting happy and letting the real mods take the blame in their goal to teach people manners. While not not entirely disagreeing with civil discourse they have between them trashed the blog . I shall remember that for a long time.

  123. fenbeagle says:

    ……It is a puzzlement

  124. The following video is dedicated to the missing and presumably late Izen’t: If he is passed on, we can only mourn and commemorate his passing with a twenty-one fart salute: Sweet.

  125. rastech says:


    Interesting few days. *grins*

    Thanks for being an unwitting assistant Amanda, to my efforts at inserting surreptitious lobotomies to the eco-fascist greentards recently. I hope you didn’t mind?

    Great sport eh? *even bigger grin*

  126. rastech says:

    PS. I am now in the process of implanting the fear and mental image of ‘clowns in the moonlight’ dogging their trail, into their sadly diseased minds.

    More than one can play the ‘asymetric psy-ops warfare game’, as they are going to find out to their cost.

    Anybody know a good place for hiring clown outfits?

    Particularly clown outfits with very big sharp teeth and very large two handed mallets . . . . and a distinct resemblance to rabid polar bears.

    Perhaps it’s photoshopable – after all, if it’s good enough for Greenpeace, Friends of the Earth, and the WWF, why go to the expense, right?

    Where’s Izen when we need him?

  127. Amanda says:

    Oh god, Walt. Do you make fart tapes, as well? heh heh.

  128. Amanda says:

    Well I got a lot done today considering when I got up. Only not nearly enough. As penance for recent self-indulgence I shall be up at midnight laying cockroach traps and dutiful things like that.

  129. Amanda says:

    Rastech: I certainly *was* unwitting. What the hell are you talking about???

  130. Amanda says:

    Rastech, Walt’s got a polar bear painting he could lend you. It sounds the right sort of thing. You could make a cardboard cut-out with it, life size.

  131. I noticed izen turned into icarus on the JD blog, he picked up the name from here.

  132. Amanda says:

    Crown, are you there? What is Rastech talking about? Does he have delusions of saboteur? My dog needs walking but I’d like to know.

  133. Blackswan says:

    It seems Jooolya Gizzard’s strategy is to have an ETS and Carbon Tax before any Climate Challengers get a chance to get any facts before the Public……..

    Abbot is refusing to participate in the process.

  134. amanda go walk the dog I am clueless as well.

  135. Blackswan says:

    Twittergate: Beandog trolls spoil conservative Tea Party

    “A prank by a group of online trolls, including several Australians, has whipped conservative US commentators into a lather over what they claimed was a gang of progressive “e-thugs” formed by the Democrats to smear the Tea Party movement.”

    “You try and bait people into revealing their own stupidity and ignorance and then sit back and have a good laugh at them”

    Seems they’re working in the blogosphere as well as twitter.

  136. amanda I think the clue is in the words “unwitting participant” Rastech needs to be a little more specific .

  137. fenbeagle says:
    October 12, 2010 at 7:30 am

    They have too many social skills to allow of anyone to achieve anything of use to anyone but themselves, and under their command.

  138. Here is the trolls’ theme song, easily one of the ugliest and most threatening songs to hit the top of the charts. Even Sting was taken somewhat aback by its success: Scary stuff, really. Imagine a secret police agent singing this to a prisoner he’s got lashed into a chair just before the interrogation commences with cattle prods and waterboards.

  139. crownarmourer says:
    October 12, 2010 at 7:59 am

    I think this is of more direct value for Rastech’s purposes. Perhaps we could licence this fellow? He has TWO mallets.

  140. Blackswan says:

    G’day Cheery Bear

    And there I was thinking that song was about your average psychotic stalker.
    The name Police should have been a clue.

  141. Blackswan says:

    Tried to post this link earlier but wordpress kept telling me I’d already done it.

    Giving it another go…….

    “A prank by a group of online trolls, including several Australians, has whipped conservative US commentators into a lather over what they claimed was a gang of progressive “e-thugs” formed by the Democrats to smear the Tea Party movement.”

    “You try and bait people into revealing their own stupidity and ignorance and then sit back and have a good laugh at them”

    Seems they’re working in the blogosphere as well as twitter.

  142. Blackswan says:

    I’ve tried to post this link several times and it won’t work……….

    Wondering why……

    Very curious.

  143. rastech says:

    Amanda I built on to my foundation of ‘reasonableness’ and being virulently anti fascist. Thanks to you. *winks*

    Which is of course exactly how I am, so easy to do, and no lies need to be told.

    aphillips made a strange, but true admission, that asymetric psy-ops warfare was being wage against us (I have known this for a long time). He is one of those waging it, and I think he is starting to appreciate the consequences. He is starting to appreciate that he is indeed, a brainwashed fascist, chained to a self destructive beast.

    But he still needs to put food on the table. I think there’s a lot of ‘going through the motions to get the paycheques’ going on across the board at the moment.

    I have probably been aware of psy-ops, communications theory, ‘and using them against the enemy’, for far longer than he has even been alive.

    This past week though, one of the main pieces of the puzzle has finally dropped into place, that’s been nagging me for years now. Game Theory. I knew it was wrong, just couldn’t put my finger on exactly why it was wrong, even though it failed at every turn. It’s rippled right through with flawed assumptions and presumptions, designed literally in paranoid schizophrenia, and it’s a magnet for psychotics, sociopaths, psychopaths, as well as paranoid schizophrenics, and downright hot nitroglycerine dangerous as a result.

    It doesn’t work at any level. When the model runs outside of model space, it always ends in failure (reminiscent of climate models, financial models, etc – because they all contain the seed of their own destruction, which is the Game Theory foundation of sand). I have watched that continuous failure for a long time now, played out in real commercial games, where the theory comes up against real people, and real people that are not mentally disturbed, HATE WHAT THE GAME IS DOING TO THEM (sorry for caps, but that is precisely what I see).

    As an aside, computer gaming started as Artificial Intelligence research (and it now looks as if we have even been designing and building paranoid schizophrenic computers – there’s a thought, eh?).

    The Gaming Industry is littered with commercial failure after commercial failure. Yet the developers refuse to acknowledge that something is very seriously wrong, because the act of acknowledging that, goes against everything they and their colleagues stand for, goes against everything they have been taught to assume about human beings. The ones that wise up, tend to leave the industry, because they realise the very companies themselves, are run with the exact same Game Theory delusions and rules of play. Everything in our Society Globally, just about, is also run on this seriously flawed Game Theory model.

    So it seems to be time to bring 0n the clowns. *grins*

  144. Pointman says:

    Cheery Thoughts Bear says:
    October 12, 2010 at 9:16 am

    Hiya growly bear. Have some cool karma courtesy of DIV, kids running through the Louvre and some proto-line dancing!


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  146. Rastech so what you are saying is that if I play monopoly I’m a psycho?

  147. Ozboy says:

    G’day all,

    Dave’s comment above was, I thought, worth its own thread. So here it is.



  148. Amanda says:

    Rastech, saw your post on Delingpole’s re: rights and privileges. It seems to be perfectly correct and in order. Well done.

  149. Amanda says:

    Rastech: In case you’ve written of this elsewhere, I refer to your post of 7:52 AM, presumably today my time (Oct. 11). Disqus should just give the ruddy date instead of ‘today’ and ‘yesterday’ as if we are all on GMT.

  150. Oooooo. Happy T-shirts for the Nov 3 US elections. Democrats! Gotta dump ’em all!

    And here, to brighten our day, is Helen Mirren as a professional assassion in the new flick coming out Oct. 15: “Red.” Don’t look for Warren Beatty and Diane Keaton: Looks like fun. I still think her best role was as Bob Hoskins’ moll in “The Long Good Friday.”

    No way, José: – Oz

  151. Amanda says:

    Cheery: Look at the new thread if you would, sir.

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