Is Cancún Still Happening?

I ask this because I have read precisely zero about it lately in all the mainstream media. Even the Wikipedia article on it is confined to four terse paragraphs. I get the impression governments, business and the MSM have pretty much written off the 2010 United Nations Climate Conference as an event likely to produce anything in the way of a binding agreement.

Also, by the time the conference is held, the U.S. mid-term elections will have been run and won, and if the influence thus far of the Tea Party movement in that country is anything to go by, climate change by then will be very much yesterday’s news.

So if it’s all over before it begins, why not call it off and save us all some money?

I’m neck deep in work right now, but I hope to write something more substantial next week.

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385 Responses to Is Cancún Still Happening?

  1. NoIdea says:

    Doing a quick gargle, I found…

    From one of the many websites dedicated to tourism in Cancun…

    “Cancun is the ultimate vacation and resort destination whether your idea of a good time is surfing, kayaking, fishing and swimming or just laying in the tropical sun”

    Do the Cancunians know that the conference they are hosting will be trying to outlaw tourism?


  2. Blackswan says:

    G’day Oz

    Work is good – even neck-deep.

    You don’t imagine the free-loaders will pass up another taxpayer-funded junket do you Oz?

    All that hot food, hot senoritas (or hombres), dope, hanging out by the pool with all those Mariachi Bands – even bull baiting (mistakenly called “fighting” but very one-sided) where they can see some real blood pumping.

    “What’s that? The Climate? Yeah, the weather should be fine. Now where’s my sleeping mask? – it’s such a long flight over there. And we’ll be able to sleep it all off on the flight home. Must remember to book my rostered days off for when we get back – these overseas “jobs” are soooo tiring.”

    Never fear – the MSM wordsmiths will craft some passable column-inches to justify the expenses. The speechwriters will give the Politicians something to say for their photo-ops. Business as usual.

    Well, exactly. I was thinking of this article written just after Copenhagen by former Fraser government minister Neil Brown. Check the howls of indignation in the comments underneath but Brown scores a bullseye with this one.

    Shades of Yes, Minister – Oz

  3. Amerloque says:

    AGW, aka “manmade global warming”, is a scientific, intellectual, political, financial and moral scam. The climate has been changing for millions upon millions of years.

    The IPCC is the biggest perpetrator of scientific fraud that the world has ever seen.

    Individuals and organizations involved in this fraud should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law.

    Civil suits should be filed to recover grant money and subsidies given to individuals and organizations participating in the fraud.

    Now is not the time to let up !

  4. Amerloque says:

    Good Morning, Everyone !

    Meanwhile, back at the ranch, the rape of the supine US taxpaper continues apace.


    Two solar projects on California public land get federal OK

    Approval of the plants planned in the Mojave Desert and Imperial Valley could increase the chances of several other projects in the state that await a U.S. green light.

    By Marc Lifsher, Los Angeles Times
    October 5, 2010|9:20 p.m.

    Reporting from Sacramento —

    Federal officials Tuesday approved construction of the first two California solar energy projects to be built on public land in the sun-drenched Mojave Desert and Imperial Valley.

    The go-ahead from U.S. Interior Secretary Ken Salazar could bolster the chances for seven other major solar projects in the state awaiting approval from him and the U.S. Energy Department.

    Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger is banking on the building boom to infuse the state with more than $30 billion in new investments in green energy and create more than 12,000 high-paying construction and manufacturing jobs from about two dozen planned wind and solar facilities.

    At the same time, the new structures would replace a large portion of the state’s fossil fuel-powered electric generation with nonpolluting energy. …/…


    All Incumberts Out
    Remember in November !

  5. Amerloque says:

    Good Morning, Blackswan !
    on October 6, 2010 at 7:07 pm

    Will one or two of the local gangbangers kidnap a fistful of delegates, hold them to ransom, and throw a few down the nearest cenote to encourage quick payment ?


  6. Amerloque says:

    In SoCal … the LA Times reports:

    Daily low temperature records recorded along Orange County coast
    October 5, 2010 | 6:35 pm

    Daily records for low temperatures were recorded along the Orange County coast Tuesday as a low-pressure area continued to bring clouds and traces of rain to Southern California, the National Weather Service said.

    At Laguna Beach, the temperature bottomed out at 63 degrees, breaking a record 68 degrees set in 1928, the weather service said. Newport Beach recorded a 62-degree reading, which broke the previous low of 65 degrees set in 1929. At Oceanside Harbor, the low was 64 degrees, which beat the previous record of 65 degrees set in 1914. …/…

  7. Blackswan says:

    Good morning Amerloque (early evening here)

    “the rape of the supine US taxpaper continues apace”

    Now that’s a goody.

    As for California’s projects – it seems one will be mirrors focusing solar energy, the other will be PV panels. No mention in your link whether either of these materials will be manufactured in the US. Sure enough, building jobs were mentioned but not manufacturing.

    Part of the Stimulus package? Stimulus for whom? It sure won’t help the US/China balance-of-trade figures.

    Same deal here. No wonder China sees this as a “smokeless war”. Who needs ICBMs when you can blow entire Economies out of the water.

  8. Blackswan says:


    Thanks for the Brown article – proves what anyone who’s been Delegate at Conference have found out for ourselves.

    Like acid on glass, it etches deep patterns of Disillusionment and Cynicism on the shiniest of Good Intentions.

    No probs Swanny. Incidentally, the commenter “Mr Freeze of Mt Kilimanjaro”, who was a regular at SMH (Australia’s version of the UK Guardian) before he gave up in disgust – was me – Oz

  9. Blackswan says:

    Amerloque says:
    October 6, 2010 at 7:43 pm

    Your temperatures, the lowest in 80 or 90 years. Good one.

  10. Blackswan says:


    How did they “rid themselves of their entire useless bourgeoisie”?

    We need some tips…LOL

    Ozboy – a man with all the facets of a finely cut gem.

  11. fenbeagle says:

    Why have all your comments been removed on the Telegraph blog?

  12. Edward. says:

    Blackswan says:
    October 6, 2010 at 8:07 pm

    On the Brown article (how apt a description is that?), the poor sweet dahlin’s in Dopenhagen near froze their pillocks off.

    Just think of all those corrupt African mendicants, holding out their begging bowls in the snow and frost of Dopenhagen and those, oh SO expensive filles de joie!
    Plus the hotels and chauffeured limos, that they ran out of, OMG that was slumming (and sliming) it!

    No, the bunfight in Dopenhagen had to fail, the show must go on!
    The backhanders must be paid, the ‘delegates’ must be able to exhibit their great and noble altruism and we the taxpayers can have the honour of paying the tab, again.

    And so to Cancun, a gremlin who lives nearby, has suggested (in jest of course) that we lower ourselves to their level (the IPCC and pachi’s level – and that’s not very high [inane izal grin]is it!).
    Why not infer to one of these mad and very dangerous pedlar’s of filth and drugs, that a smarmy Indian guy, is havin’ a party in Cancun at the end of the year and that he’s trying to muscle in on the action.
    Just a very bad thought, from a very bad gremlin, you do understand.

    Or a rogue MQ1 predator could launch a ‘rogue’ surprise their way, trouble is, the (as the green [red button] eco- loons would ‘have it’) collateral damage, we (realists) don’t stoop to that level do we?

    Ho hum, the groan inducing, reviling travesty that is, the next oral fart fest of hypocrisy, cant and BS at Cancun nears, I unfortunately will be watching (though we observe vulture like), for signs of the final gasps and of the ante-mortem of the IPCC with hungry eyes.


  13. Locusts says:


    Not sure. I’ve done a search, and all my comments for the past week or so seem to have been deleted, but before then my words of idiocy remain.

  14. fenbeagle says:

    It is all very strange. DIB has been removed as well, and Yak/Mac. Is it possible their could be a link? (DIB is an obvious spoof.)

  15. Locusts says:


    I don’t really know. I’ve obviously upset someone. Maybe I’ve been a little too strident recently, but I’m nowhere as offensive as those other two, or the dreaded Fabian Solutions.

  16. Walt O'Bruin says:

    Greetings, Locusts. I still think Fagin’s Extortions is really David Groc*nt in drag. What tipped me off was there was a woman’s face as the avatar.

    It might be interesting to see where David Grocott works now. He usually updates his online lies report card on himself.

    I think the comment-pulling is but another instance of the moderators attempting to blunt or minimize the capacity for making an impact on people beyond a certain tuning point in attenuated public perceptions. This is done to prevent what happened with their old posting system: posters were actually submitted repeatedly and at length better copy than the blog “writer.”

    There aren’t many genuine writers on the Net anymore under 60 or 70 or so. They are conversationalists on paper who’ve not a clue respecting even punctuation.

    It’s not an educational problem. I’ve copies of my old posts going back to 1997 at the DT. Computers really do make one more stoopid, or shall I say, more slovenly.

    I haven’t bought a DT hard copy newspaper in 12 years, so it might be interesting to do so to find out if the God-Emperor writes significantly differently in print from how he “talks with his fingers” online (nil points for inserting and old and very bad Helen Keller jokes here).

  17. Walt O'Bruin says:

    Women don’t normally post women’s faces as avatars, at least not in my experience, unless they are 12 to 16 mental age, which in this case clinches that it is Groc*nt.

    It could be that no one from our side of the fence are reporting comments, whereas Flavoured Ablutions and Co. routinely click Report This Comment from the 10 or 12 identities they have each.

    We need to hire , too, perhaps.

    Solar panels are like wind turbines: if there were storage batteries on the market large enough and cost effective enough, over 50 years of debt service, they might be a bargain LOL. There is something else behind them beside polar barefaced fraud. The only possible use for any of this AGW lie is to serve as a screen to establish energy independence by any means semi-secretly in preparation for another major global conflict, which as any student of history knows generally taken 20 years to orchestrate.

    The Cold War never ended. What happened in 1991 with the Wall coming down was just a Versailles Treaty and armistice on a fully scripted and mutually agreed sub rosa basis. Round II is just coming up after both sides refuel and re-tool.

  18. Locusts says:

    I don’t think the God Emperor gets in to the print edition Walt.

    Where do you think the real writers have gone then?

    I for one am very thankful for my time at the DT, it has tightened up my grammar and general ability to make coherent points much more than my time at university did.

  19. Walt O'Bruin says:

    Locusts says:
    October 7, 2010 at 12:14 am

    You have to follow the money trail to find the writers. As news organizations are now dicier propositions in terms of staff jobs being available at all for reporters anywhere, the migration is to technical trade journals and to specialist academic work. Most also now write for people who are not likely to be TV-centric or even have a TV in the house. The attractions of consulting in topic areas not requiring one to be especially versed in anything specific also have claimed many, not the least of which has been politics. Or they write for the now-lucrative pulp mills (detective novel sausage factories, rape-a-chapters publishers like Pills and Toons) and the ludicrously misnomered “alternative press.” Lots are online, too, but they have typically small followings by design and intent.

    I might also add that, sub-Victorian hypocrites that we are, little mention is made of the fact that lots of really good writers write pron by the truckloads. It is a huge market for every variety of the stuff, in print with our without pix. It is also funny how so many respected directors, producers and technical people apprenticed doing pron to raise funds for their breakaway Sundance Festival, TIFF or Cannes indie film. That market is the kiss of death to actors, but not for those behind the camera, especially those who actually plan productions, which are or course writers and script writers, though there is generally not much to a pron movie script, it’s the scheduling and planning that uses a writers’ talents there.

    The only reason AGW is around at all is non-specialists in everything except getting paid for writing drek dominate the discourse from their side of the fence, and the only reason it gained traction besides government sponsorship was that the just and the good no longer are willing to starve or deprive themselves for the sake of the furtherance of their convictions.

    The one common feature of the now-several fright climate ads is gross stupidity, and it is the scriptwriter’s fault in all instances. As Mandelson pointed out at Dopenhagen, the big mistake the entire greentard movement has made is to base their appeals for public support on negative premises. People do not frighten easily, and they retaliate vigorously against the frightener once they sort themselves out after the scare. I don’t think therefore that the Left actually has the first claim on what constitutes the best writers.

    If you wish to savour tight general non-fiction writing, you still have to hit the university little presses, usually in the history or other generalist department.

    In all fairness to the present-day lit-crit dole monkeys on NEA grants, the biggies of the Thirties and Forties were whores for the State, too, except how they received their subsidies were with brown envelopes sub rosa. Today is no different than then in that respect. Steinbeck and Hemingway come to mind, and also many woman op-ed writers like Dorothy Thompson.

    Try on or's links (don’t really care for the Pedestal, myself; for obvious reasons). My favourite like is A tree still grows in Brooklyn LOL

  20. Walt O'Bruin says:

    My favourite link, it should be :>p

  21. Edward. says:

    Locusts says:
    October 6, 2010 at 11:03 pm

    I am fairly familiar with JD’s blogs, I cannot say that I read all of the threads but to me, your posts are reasonable and well written, if anything you are very restrained and quite laid back IMHO (of course) but then I’m hardly what you might call a restrained blogger myself (blush) and I am a totally biased; nutter (according to many of my left wing ‘mates’) right winger (to the right of Attila), dyed in the wool realist, who dislikes socialism with a feverish passion and who regards people like Bog Ward of the Grantham Institute as certifiable lunatics.

    Can’t say fairer than that can I?


  22. Edward. says:

    Oh yes (grin).

  23. Locusts says:


    Thanks for such a long, meaty reply, I’m cracking on with writing a full meaty sleazy story as we speak!

    I think I’ve managed to really upset a couple of people the last few days, this might have been their way of getting revenge!

  24. Locusts says:

    Can’t say fairer than that indeed!

  25. manonthemoor says:

    Thats it then time to goto jail ,do not pass go, do not collect £200 and the community chest is empty.

    A bit like receiving a letter from th bank saying you owe us £1M, without any explanation.

    I have not got £4 trillion — so I guess it must be jail then.

    Has anyone designed a low carbon jail yet?

    Perhaps I can go to the holiday camp in Cancun instead and plead sanity!!

  26. Locusts says:

    Has anyone designed a low carbon jail yet?

    Yes, the medium carbon one is called a concentration camp, the low carbon one a death camp.

  27. Edward. says:

    Locusts says:
    October 7, 2010 at 1:33 am

    Can’t say fairer than that indeed!



  28. Locusts says:
    October 7, 2010 at 1:32 am

    Craft has all gone underground as well, partly to dodge the MSM main-chancers and the politicos and religionists, partly because no one knows better than a journalist or novelist that they are the first ones put up against the wall to be shot, regardless of their persuasion. You can jam the airwaves and hack the InterNet, but you can’t defeat a hektographed poem or essay or novel on paper being carried about in one’s trench coat, one step ahead of the secret police or the commissars of the First Church of Love Me or Die.

    Interesting times. Just to put you in the mood for how this all may play out.

    OT, after posting the charge on Rourke’s Drift from “Zulu,” I read the DT interview with Sir Michael Caine. I hadn’t realised at 19 he was behind a machinegun with British Forces in Korea spreading joy amongst the ranks of the charging Communist human wave attacks. It is a hell of a thing his career-making film was essentially a replay of his true life experience of that sort of heartfelt social networking. What did Sir Michael think to himself upon reading the script for the first time, I wonder.

  29. I wish the greentards had collectively followed Mandelson’s advice, just to avoid the messier scenarios as pictured. Experience is not much to go by, really, but I don’t think people are quire so easily intimidated as they presume, given the level of hard work and investment that would be involved were they even remotely right about anything, even their chosen lifestyles.

  30. Amanda says:

    Read you, Walt, and replied.

  31. Ah! A typo reminded me of another fine literary resource for wordsmiths, in Canada, Quill and Quire:

    Ah: early Farley Mowat, especially his travel writing on Italy, Robertson Davies, Mordechai Richler, Thomas B. Costain, early Margaret Atwood, but mostly her critical writings, and Alice Munro (don’t miss her bookstore in Victoria, BC).

  32. Amanda says:

    P. S. Bear: love your last paragraph responding to Locusts; Zulu is by far the film I’ve watched most, being my own personal ‘cult classic’; and I’ve always been a fan of Sir Michael both as an actor and a person (and defender of English cuisine). In fact, he would be at my table of greats and funs, along with Socrates, Winston Churchill, and Ronald Reagan.

  33. Amanda says:

    P. P. S. My fantasy dinner party of long-dead people would require a bl**dy big table.

  34. Sir Michael succeeds because he has concentrated on being on-screen the people who watch and like his films. The last actor to “get” the concept that part of one’s job description and personal moral obligation as an actor is to serve as a public role model without compromising one’s personal aesthetic, ‘e is.

    He’s done a lot of trash films, but I think they must have been fish in a barrel shooting to do plus a chance to fiddle about with alternative interpretations of scripts. Makes we wonder whatever became of Len Deighton. Did he ever get knighted, I wonder?

  35. Fantasy tables would be fun, but they would probably end up in a fisticuffs free for all LOL Or food fight.

  36. Amanda, you’re right about the integration bit. Problem is, adjusting to what the other person wants can be a bit tricky, especially if they are inclined to think along cost-benefit alternative scenario lines.

  37. That’s how nearly everyone thinks these days.

  38. Locusts says:


    For whom the bell tolls: indeed.

    I love Zulu too.

    George Orwell said that the problem with writing is that you have to tell the truth, as soon as you start lying, you lose the gift.

    But then again if you don’t lie, you might not get too many chances to tell the truth.

  39. Locusts says:

    My fantasy dinner party of long-dead people would require a bl**dy big table.

    Is Caligula invited?

  40. Amanda says:

    Bear: Integration is just that: it’s not looking for the exit just in case. As one of my songs goes:

    Forever, it sometimes means
    taking it as it comes
    Forever, like “wait and see
    if a better offer comes”
    But forever in my world
    means round the clock we start
    It means my darling, stay with me,
    don’t let’s ever part…


  41. Amanda says:

    Locusts: No, he doesn’t get an invite, and I shall also have Arnold Schwarzenegger on door-duty just in case!

  42. Amanda says:

    Locusts: The table is not that kind of bl**dy!

  43. Amanda says:

    Anyway Bear, when ‘forever, it then becomes/something you freely choose’, accommodation shouldn’t be all that difficult. What a great line in that Gladys Knight song: ‘I’d rather live in his world/than live without him in mine’.

  44. The lectern incident with Kabalammadingdong seems to be a sort of Book of Daniel omen of ill tidings, dunnit? LOL

  45. One of the most haunted houses in the USA is the White House. All we need is an appearance of Daniel Webster’s ghost with a circus tent stake-driving mallet to round out the picture.

  46. Amanda, chacun a son gout. That’s what freedom is about. That’s why we post.

  47. Just be sure you don’t need Gary Cooper’s Lewis gun to execute the maneuver, whatever it may be LOL! Drama in real life’s 57 minutes of boredom and self-recrimination and 3 minutes of standing one’s ground. Every hour. Sometimes for years at a time.

  48. The Lewis gun weighed something like 26 lbs without the drum magazine, and thirty with it. Worked a charm when it worked, though, I am told. Bren gun, too.

  49. manonthemoor says:
    October 7, 2010 at 1:33 am

    It’s a transparent and ancient stockbrokers’ publicist trick, even beneath Alex and Clive. They are talking up the economic damage presumably done to kick-start upwards the valuation of the IPCC-based carbon credit which has tanked irreparably, IMHO.

    Sadly laughable, actually.

  50. The bell tolling at the IPCC is the NYSE one lOL

  51. I don’t think the CMEX has a bell. Should have a clown hooter. I think they called them klaxons.

  52. Pointman says:

    G’Day All.


  53. The way it is playing out, and the way everyone is effing around while Rome burns, the stock and commodities exchanges worldwide will count themselves very lucky if ALL of them don’t pull an India and outlaw globally futures trading, and outlawing borrowing to conduct trades, too. Killing currency trades except for registered state banks as in the old days wouldn’t hurt either. Soros would have to get a real job then.

    It really is the only way out. Stock trades for pre-qualified investors only, and prompt calls only for commodities, just like in wartime. Everyone’s governmental finances would be back on their feet with central bank managers wondering what the fuss was all about two years from now.

  54. Even the caterer to the NYSE’s pit crew know that.

  55. Your high food prices are due to the commodities futures derivative tw*ts. They got frog-walked out of the energy bourses, so now they are looking for someone else’s lives to ruin. Doing a good job of it, too.

  56. Stuff futures trading altogether and watch commodities prices tumble overnight to rational levels.

  57. Pointman says:

    Something for DykeInBoots and Yaakov who have undergone an Orwellian disappearance from the DT overnight.


  58. The funny bit is, the actual backstop clearing traders would make lots more per deal off prompt calls than they do with the present layout. If they see the glinting light of the piles of filthy lucre which could be theirs which are now going to banker w*nkers, and all the consumer goodwill the net reduction to the consumer such a move would provide, the governments won’t have to do anything, the markets will do it for themselves.

  59. Pointman says:
    October 7, 2010 at 4:25 am

    I hate cloche hats. I hope they don’t come back. They make women look like putzes with legs.

  60. Pointman says:

    I wonder what sort of hat DiB wore?


  61. Cancun is going to be a low key affair and only minor dignitaries are going apparently, or that could just be a ruse to stop the protesters turning up.

    Anyhow thanks for the idea Amanda/Walt….. new blog…

  62. Amanda says:

    Hi Walt, I agree about chacun a son gout, but don’t know what in particular you’re referring to. I’m not actually a fan of Gladys, I just think the line is good. Sometimes I’m not sure if some of my own songs are even ‘my taste’, but they’re sort of documents of another time and feeling, and anyway there’s no ‘throwing them out’ because I remember them.

  63. Amanda says:

    Walt, however you may not be referring to that sort of taste at all.

  64. Amerloque says:

    Hello John Donne Ernie Hemingway Robert Jordan Bear !

    ///Killing currency trades except for registered state banks as in the old days wouldn’t hurt either. ///

    Limited term exchange controls seem to be what China will be angling for, instead of revaluating the yuan. Live to fight another day … (grin)


  65. Dr. Dave says:

    I think anyone would be nuts to visit Mexico these days. Admittedly, Cancun is about as far away from the trouble spots as you can get…but until recently that’s what they thought about Acapulco. Northern Mexico is a veritable war zone.

    When our new Congress is sworn in on Jan 3, 2011 there will be very little political interest in the AGW fraud. Interesting story in the American Thinker today:

  66. orkneylad says:

    Ok is anyone up for a peedie experiment?

    OK but first [& just for the sake of argument] let’s do a little experiment; for our subject let’s choose Aneurin Bevan.

    In 2004, over 40 years after his death, he was voted first in a list of 100 Welsh Heroes, this being credited much to his contribution to the Welfare State after World War Two.

    First let’s have the man in his own words:

    “You’re not an M.P., you’re a gastronomic pimp.”

    “I read the newspaper avidly. It is my one form of continuous fiction.”

    “Fascism is not in itself a new order of society. It is the future refusing to be born.”

    “The Prime Minister has an absolute genius for putting flamboyant labels on empty luggage.”

    “Politics is a blood sport.”

    “Poor fellow, he suffers from files.”

    “I have enough faith in my fellow creatures in Great Britain to believe that when they have got over the delirium of television, when they realise that their new homes that they have been put into are mortgaged to the hilt, when they realise that the moneylender has been elevated to the highest position in the land… when the years go by and they see the challenge of modern society not being met by the Tories… then we shall lead our people where they deserve to be led.”
    Aneurin Bevan, Labour party conference 1959.

    “We know what happens to people who stay in the middle of the road. They get run over.”
    Aneurin Bevan

    Does this sound like the Labout Party to you?

    [rather lacking in quotes I think….but check out those external links!! Not with a bargepole].

    Some quotes attributed to the man:
    [And here below.]…aneurin-bevan/
    [I would contend -on current inspection- that these two sites are hosted by the nice [caveat: ‘good’ or good!] guys].

    What would you EXPECT to see at the Guardian regarding this towering figure of ‘Socialism’?…060115,00.html
    [Has Elvis left the building?]

    What would you expect to see if you did a search for Aneurin_Bevan in their search window?…uardian=Search

    Is it at this point that we start to form a hypothesis?

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    “In the next century, nations as we know it will be obsolete; all states will recognize a single, global authority. National sovereignty wasn’t such a great idea after all.”
    Strobe Talbot, President Clinton’s Deputy Secretary of State, as quoted in Time, July 20th, 1992.

    “We shall have world government whether or not you like it, by conquest or consent.”
    Statement by Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) member James Warburg to The Senate Foreign Relations Committee on February 17th, 1950

    “The world is governed by very different personages from what is imagined by those who are not behind the scenes.”
    Benjamin Disraeli, first Prime Minister of England, in a novel he published in 1844 called Coningsby, the New Generation

    “The governments of the present day have to deal not merely with other governments, with emperors, kings and ministers, but also with the secret societies which have everywhere their unscrupulous agents, and can at the last moment upset all the governments’ plans. ”
    British Prime Minister Benjamin Disraeli, 1876

    “Since I entered politics, I have chiefly had men’s views confided to me privately. Some of the biggest men in the United States, in the Field of commerce and manufacture, are afraid of something. They know that there is a power somewhere so organized, so subtle, so watchful, so interlocked, so complete, so pervasive, that they better not speak above their breath when they speak in condemnation of it.”
    Woodrow Wilson,The New Freedom (1913)

    “The real menace of our republic is this invisible government which like a giant octopus sprawls its slimy length over city, state and nation. Like the octopus of real life, it operates under cover of a self created screen….At the head of this octopus are the Rockefeller Standard Oil interests and a small group of powerful banking houses generally referred to as international bankers. The little coterie of powerful international bankers virtually run the United States government for their own selfish purposes. They practically control both political parties.”
    New York City Mayor John F. Hylan, 1922

    “From the days of Sparticus, Wieskhopf, Karl Marx, Trotsky, Rosa Luxemberg, and Emma Goldman, this world conspiracy has been steadily growing. This conspiracy played a definite recognizable role in the tragedy of the French revolution. It has been the mainspring of every subversive movement during the 19th century. And now at last this band of extraordinary personalities from the underworld of the great cities of Europe and America have gripped the Russian people by the hair of their head and have become the undisputed masters of that enormous empire.”
    Winston Churchill, stated to the London Press, in 1922.

    “We are at present working discreetly with all our might to wrest this mysterious force called sovereignty out of the clutches of the local nation states of the world.”
    Professor Arnold Toynbee, in a June 1931 speech before the Institute for the Study of International Affairs in Copenhagen.

    “The government of the Western nations, whether monarchical or republican, had passed into the invisible hands of a plutocracy, international in power and grasp. It was, I venture to suggest, this semioccult power which….pushed the mass of the American people into the cauldron of World War I.”
    British military historian MajorGeneral J.F.C. Fuller, 1941

    “The real truth of the matter is, as you and I know, that a financial element in the larger centers has owned the Government ever since the days of Andrew Jackson.”
    A letter written by FDR to Colonel House, November 21st, 1933

    “The real rulers in Washington are invisible, and exercise power from behind the scenes.”
    Supreme Court Justice Felix Frankfurter, 1952

    “Fifty men have run America, and that’s a high figure.”
    Joseph Kennedy, father of JFK, in the July 26th, 1936 issue of The New York Times.

    “Today the path of total dictatorship in the United States can be laid by strictly legal means, unseen and unheard by the Congress, the President, or the people. Outwardly we have a Constitutional government. We have operating within our government and political system, another body representing another form of government – a bureaucratic elite.”
    Senator William Jenner, 1954

    “The powers of financial capitalism had another far reaching aim, nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole. This system was to be controlled in a feudalist fashion by the central banks of the world acting in concert, by secret agreements, arrived at in frequent private meetings and conferences. The apex of the system was the Bank for International Settlements in Basle, Switzerland, a private bank owned and controlled by the worlds’ central banks which were themselves private corporations. The growth of financial capitalism made possible a centralization of world economic control and use of this power for the direct benefit of financiers and the indirect injury of all other economic groups.”
    Tragedy and Hope: A History of The World in Our Time (Macmillan Company, 1966,) Professor Carroll Quigley of Georgetown University, highly esteemed by his former student, William Jefferson Blythe Clinton.

    “… when the struggle seems to be drifting definitely towards a world social democracy, there may still be very great delays and disappointments before it becomes an efficient and beneficent world system. Countless people … will hate the new world order … and will die protesting against it. When we attempt to evaluate its promise, we have to bear in mind the distress of a generation or so of malcontents, many of them quite gallant and graceful-looking people.”
    H. G. Wells, in his book entitled The New World Order (1939)

    The things that come to those who wait will be the things left by those who got there first.

  67. Amerloque says:

    Hi Orkneylad !

    Yeah, from here in France, no problemo.

    Is there something in it to see definitely ? (grin)

    L’Amerloque (it’s been a long day …)

  68. orkneylad says:
    October 7, 2010 at 6:46 am

    Comes through fine. I just updated my Java, XML, .NET and C++ though.

    You have to shut off the firewall, depending on whose you use. Then put it back on after LOL

  69. orkneylad says:

    Merci Amerloque, Compo Bear. 🙂

    Just wanted to make sure……..little experiment to locate watermelons.


    “The things that come to those who wait will be the things left by those who got there first.”
    Steve Tyler

  70. They sound sort of like us, yet they are bearded sandal wearing handknit wool genuine Irish turtleneck sweater, made in China, wearing leftards.

  71. I still think the greentards are going to do somefink really stoopid to compensate for their past stoopidities. Soon, too.

  72. orkneylad says:

    Bear – Do you think they’ll take to dousing themselves in gas, Buddhist protest style?

    I do hope they wake up before that.


  73. meltemian says:

    No problems logging in from Greece.

  74. orkneylad says:

    wicked, thanks meltemian 🙂

  75. Blackswan says:


    It’s all good in Oz too.

    Your piece @ 6.41am proves two things……..

    For a baseless “conspiracy theory”, it’s pretty well documented and..
    Just ‘cos you’re paranoid doesn’t mean they aren’t out to getcha…lol

    Thanks OL – there’s some good stuff in there.

  76. Amanda says:

    In honour of HAVE NO FUN WEEK, which I failed to learn about till recently (when will they learn not to leave messages on Yahoo?), I’d like to suggest ‘I’m Going Down’, written by Dylan and performed by Bryan Ferry, as a theme song.

    If you need something a bit stronger to capture the mood, how about what Elvis called ‘probably the saddest song I’ve ever heard’:


  77. Amanda says:

    Calling you from the Sun Coast of Florida:
    Oh god, not another blog to get addicted to!

  78. Pointman says:


    Checks out from Wallawoora too.


  79. Blackswan says:

    Dr. Dave says:
    October 7, 2010 at 6:30 am

    A good “telling it like it is” link.

    Anyone who’s had children go “through the system” in the last 20 years (anywhere in the West) knows that it’s all true.

    It’s like Chinese Water Torture – a relentless drip drip drip drip drip – and it’s worked a treat too. Based on the same Pester Power Principles developed by the Mad Men of Madison Ave wherein Junior drives his parents nuts to throw cash (or preferably Credit) at the latest “must-haves”, a little kiddie coming home to entreat his parents to “save the polar bears” and recycle the soda pop/beer bottles has been a real winner.

    It works for Foreign Aid too. Ask me about that sometime.

  80. The page can be viewed from Mordor as well.

  81. Blackswan says:

    It was only a matter of time………….

    Sun sets on the solar windfall

    CONSUMERS and businesses face another rise in electricity prices, this time to pay for a blowout in the State Government’s solar-power scheme.

    Let’s hope this translates to wind-toys as well.

  82. orkneylad says:

    Amanda @8:14 am
    If all the world loved Elvis what a great place it would be!
    [My first ever album = G.I Blues.]

    Pocketful Of Rainbows

    Treat Me Nice

    Elvis Presley Little Sister

    Some rare George Thorogood:

  83. Pointman says:

    Let’s pay homage to that song’s writer. A great power in the land who’s influence seems never to be acknowledged for some reason. If only he could do a set in the Bar & Grill. Such is life.


  84. Blackswan says:

    If you get past the opening intro of the 10:10 crap, Miranda Devine’s assessment of the AGW Fraud is worth a read…….

    a better description of the Greens as “sweet camouflaged poison”.

    This is the kind of exposure in the OZ MSM that we’ve been hoping for.

  85. orkneylad says:

    Pointman @8:42 am

    Oh buey that’s done it I’m in heaven! 😉

  86. Pointman says:

    Blackswan says:
    October 7, 2010 at 8:51 am

    Hi Swanny, the first cracks in the dam are appearing. All those wet Greenies will swamp the counselling and aromatherapy centres set up Joolya in a panic response to howls from the MSM. Run, run and don’t look back to see.


  87. Blackswan says:

    Hi Pointman

    If the CAGW program sticks to its schedule, that’ll be us – living in the forest and eating our own entrails….lol

  88. orkneylad says:
    October 7, 2010 at 7:36 am

    Are you kidding? I’ll bring the Zippo, a bunch of sticks (not oleander, except for the greenies, of course) and lots of bags of marshmallows LOL

  89. Or better yet….lots of hand mirrors for them to talk to.

  90. orkneylad says:

    Ok, we’re rolling at NewTek:

    “Glebe, dude, chill

    Anti 1010 vid just for you…

    Words of warning for everyone following the link.
    1) The url is masked because it’s a little rude
    2) There is bad language (written)
    3) It involves a german chap in a bunker

    [Edit] – Just like to add, I didn’t make the vid, I don’t know the guy who did, I didn’t know anything about eyetube before today. ”

  91. Pointman says:

    Walt, Orkney, if there’s any pyres to be lit, I suggest we pass an ordinance taking control out of the Greenies’ hands.

    Left to their own devices the result would be something like

    We can do it more imaginatively


  92. Pointman says:

    orkneylad says:
    October 7, 2010 at 9:58 am

    Bloody brilliant!


  93. Blackswan says:

    Pointman says:
    October 7, 2010 at 10:07 am

    Hi Pointy

    Just like any Aussie BBQ………..

  94. orkneylad says:

    bedtime here……..catch y’all in the morn’. 🙂

  95. Amanda says:

    By the way gang, I posted here last night a joke my dad had sent to me. It had the typical joke longueurs, the making us go through a needless set-up, the irrelevant details such as ‘after a few minutes’ (who cares if it was seconds or hours?), the boring repetition. It’s as if the joke-writers are saying ‘I’m going to make you laugh at the end, so you’re going to pay beforehand with an itchy impatience’; or worse: ‘You’re NOT going to laugh, but I’m going to make you feel invested in the joke’s funniness by making the build-up tedious, so laughing will mark the grateful release at the end and we can all pretend you really enjoyed it’.

    Herewith, my stripped-down, need-to-know, un-self-important and respectfully non-time-wasting version of the joke:

    A woman took her dead duck to the vet, hoping desperately it wasn’t defunct.
    He said ‘I’m terribly sorry, you have a defunct duck’. [Try not to say that rapidly six times over when you’re in your cups.]
    She said, WTF?
    He said: I’ll prove it, and brought in a Lab and a cat to sniff the remains, hiding with his white coat the duck’s leg which the cat was beginning to snack on.
    ‘Sorry, Ma’am, Plucky is a very defunct duck [don’t say this in rapid succession while legless in polite company].’ And then he told her that the initial $100 fee was now $567.28.
    ‘Pourquoi?’ she demanded, thinking that vets make a good salary indeed and wondering if he was married.
    ‘Well, one — there’s the Lab report, and two — there’s the Cat scan, and three — there’s your dead Plucky Ducky’.
    She drew herself up tall through her ribcage and said, ‘I never pay for menage a trois’.

    Da dump bump.

  96. Pointman says:

    I know a joke about ducks but it would be best not to tell it. Happy birthday Danny, without you to provide the right slack, I wouldn’t be here.


  97. As long as we are spiraling into the abyss of the sophomoric, let’s go for the gusto: here’s what’s scheduled for Cancun, relative to methane emissions: This has the soundtrack you pipe into the cathedral’s sound system during the Easter sermon.

  98. Blackswan says:

    Splutta Bear

    Got back from town and wondered what I’d “refreshed” into……..
    Is it sophomoric or soporific? Same result really I guess.

  99. Dr. Dave says:

    Glad to hear some CCR references. In the US (unlike the UK and Oz) we have a little thing known as the second amendment which was included in the Bill of Rights to protect against totalitarian governments. A whole bunch of American citizens are gunslingers. This is the final firewall against socialist takeover. Too few appreciate it…but I am not among their number:

  100. Amanda says:

    Hi Dave,

    I’m not in their number, either.

    In defiance of TRY NOT TO SMILE WEEK, here is the specific performance I’d been looking to share. It looks much better on DVD but someone put this up on YouTube so at least we can get the idea. Two beautiful ladies in an elegant dance:


  101. Blackswan says:

    Splutta Bear

    Definitely sophomoric. Big Daddy’s right on.

    Hey Dr Dave

    That’s why we’re looking to you to sort it all out –

    Courtesy of the Red White and Blue

  102. Locusts says:

    Dr. Dave

    At the time of the Second English Civil War, everyone had the right to carry arms enshrined in law. After you guys decided you wanted to be a new country, that law was changed.

  103. Dr. Dave says:


    Damn sweet of you to include this video…but you missed my point. Of course America will take of herself…we always have. That’s the nature of America. We’re tougher than we look… just take a look at one of our aircraft carriers. These boys are dead serious. These kids have a “bring it on” attitude. My concern is not so much for my own native country as it is for the countries of my brethren. I worry about the UK and OZ. I worry about your freedoms. In the US we take this all too much for granted. In your countries these freedoms have been stripped away. If push comes to shove you know we’ll be there for you…always have, always will.

  104. Dr Dave aircraft carriers while awesome and I have no doubt they have exceptional crews who do not lack bravery, are these days like the battle ships in the second world war basically big targets. There time has come and gone no doubt useful against weaker enemies but China is working hard to figure out how to take them out for a fraction of the cost they took to build.
    It is time for another Dreadnaught moment and dream up the newest way to dominate the seas.

  105. Blackswan says:

    Hi Dave

    I don’t think we can realistically expect Uncle Sam to continue as Global Police Chief, and it’s true that in our neck of the woods it’s mostly the bad guys who are armed. Luckily they’re more inclined to shoot each other than anyone else. However in the future (as in the past) any country’s own self-interest will determine its course of action.

    As long as the US has so much communications materiel here to protect I guess you’ll stick around to defend it. As for the rest of us, we do OK.

    Crown is right. I was reading recently that China has already developed technology to take out carriers before they ever get within range for their aircraft to be a threat. The world sure has changed and I guess we have to get our heads around that.

    In the meantime I just like the music.

  106. Locusts says:


    1 small nuke should do it.

  107. Dr. Dave says:


    You might be right…but I don’t think so. If ANY county dared attack a US aircraft carrier, they would find their capitol city glowing in the dark,. These guys aren’t politicians, they’re warriors. Obama would be left there yankin’ his pud. These guys will defend their nation. That’s their job.

    I was heavily recruited when I got out of college. Too bad I was too much of a pussy to embrace military service. I regret it to this day. At the time I could earn SO much more in the private sector. This haunts me every day of my life. You can’t beat the US military unless you have political leverage back home. This isn’t just nationalistic brag, it’s a fact. These boys (and girls) are the BEST.

    I’m very proud of the US military and all their accomplishments in the past as well as their potential for the future. I hope and pray we never have to demonstrate what we are capable of doing. Mostly I pray our allies will awaken and see what needs to be done.


  108. Locusts says:

    Just saving this post here, in case I get jumped by a troll again


    Your comments are always thought provoking. This one I found a little harder to understand, owing to confusion over what you viewed to be the underlying base culture.

    Apparently the large city centre churches that have now been turned in to clubs and bars, are busier now than they’ve ever been, having previously been mostly empty, even after they were first constructed, during Victorian times. I agree that it is difficult to resist an alien culture if one’s own is not properly grounded; yet to what extent was ours ever grounded amongst anything other than educated and more well off?

    The EDL fight against Islamism, but what do they fight for? The BNP wish for a return to a pre 1948 Britain, yet even the society of that Britain, owing to those two wars, was a vastly different place from to that of the Edwardians, of whom Orwell mocks for their innocence. There was no year dot, culturally speaking, although there may have been ethnically speaking. If there had been, the Blackadder series would be much duller than it is.

    How do you cure an ill culture? What would happen to the economy, and the nation if everyone were to go on a retreat for ten years? Even in mediaeval times, if the monks were all able to survive off the produce from their allotments, why was England just not one big allotment? More crucially, what would be the outcome if any? A retreat. Surely the modern term for that is solitary confinement, and that is seen as the harshest punishment possible bar death.

    A floating untutored underclass has always been with us, although less in the immediate post war periods owing to a shortage of manpower, than previously. Women like yourself have entered the workforce, and academia, since the rise of sexual equality. Would you disavow yourself the opportunities you have had? These things ebb and flow of course, women worked during the war, then stayed at home to look after the 2.4, re-entered the workforce, and now a cursory glance at the Daily Mail will tell you that most women are bored of work and wish to stay at home again.

    About the Pharisees, and the debasement of the traditional aims of education, I think again you are harking back to a pre-war definition of a scholar, one, who is delighted to be locked in a dusty library for a month. Was he, or that class of man, ever as much as we romantically assume? Surely the rise of more work focused qualifications, such as the MBA, is driven not by people who in a prior age would have loved knowledge for the sake of it, but by those who would have been administrators of Empire, of one sort or another? The tools of the trade have changed, so now pieces of paper are of more value than work experience. Does that old style scholar still exist? I’d hope so for the sake of my romanticized view of England, but I’d know I’d baulk at being one, all books and no grasp of life beyond the theoretical.

    I agree there should be less talk of chavs, they have adapted perfectly to their environment, and without more opportunities, there is little chance of escape for most of them.

    In summary, I’d say that I’m just asking what is English culture, and what is it to most people? Is there something distillable, that can be held up in a test tube, a pinkish liquid of pure England. A liquid that can only be distilled to high potency after a decade long retreat? I wonder, for most people that I meet seem to assume that history only started with the release of the Beatle’s first LP, back in 1963; and most of those are older than me.

    End of thread disruption

    It seems every Western nation is going through a similar identity crisis these days. How much of these debates is artificial, or maliciously contrived, or driven by nascent “multiculturalism”, is a thread in itself. Hmmm. – Oz

  109. Dr Dave I never doubt the armed services abilities and you can’t use glow in the dark city makers if your enemy can as well. About 98% of the countries out there are cannon fodder. I just think they are highly vulnerable pieces of hardware, the Chinese are thinking of are game changers and are seriously working on it, to keep them away from the Chinese mainland. The best way to tackle the Chinese is to make friends with it’s local enemies such as Vietnam, South Korea and Japan, it is interesting to note the Vietnamese are now our friends after the big misunderstanding.
    If the USA wishes to still be top dog it needs to fix a lot of problems at home such as it’s industrial base and stop importing cheap crap from China we are only feeding the enemy and making it stronger by the day.

  110. Dr. Dave says:


    I’m glad you at least enjoyed the music. My greatest fear is not for the United States. We’re actually kind of bad asses on the world stage…like this means anything. I don’t want the world to view us as bullies or pussies. We’re just looking out for our own.

    With Democrats in office we look like pussies. To tell you the truth…I’m not worried about the USA. We’re a strong nation. I am, however, worried about my cousins in the UK and Oz. You are FREE nations. Don’t let that slip away.

  111. Locusts says:

    My fear for England, is that it will become the first police state in Europe

    Edward Heath.

  112. Locusts says:


    Vietnam should fall under the sway of Greater China eventually, it is just a matter of time.

  113. Locusts says:


    The woman I’m replying to was a BNP candidate at the last election. The thread is here for anyone that is interested:

  114. Locusts says:

    I’ll continue derailing the thread. Here is the original Rivers of Blood speech:

    After which point, I assume that immigration become a taboo subject in the UK, though those wiser than me can correct me.

  115. msher says:


    “It seems every Western nation is going through a similar identity crisis these days. How much of these debates is artificial, or maliciously contrived, or driven by nascent “multiculturalism”, is a thread in itself.”

    THese debates in Europe come from the malicious policies of the establishment (politicians, intelligensia, academia and MSM) who have taken up where the collapse of the USSR left off – the subjugation of Europe into one master state with its citizens mere vassals. Britain is getting the worst of it because it was the strongest and would have been the biggest threat to the new uber state. The mystery is why its politicians are simply handing to France and Germany, without a shot being fired, what Napolean and Hitler couldn’t acheive through active warfare. Apparently the subversion put into place by the Soviets decades ago to subvert Western youth into good little communists continued unnoticed and has produced generations of people who are now socialist, supranational governance believers with loathing for the strength of the West and extreme guilt over the colonial past. That was the Soviets goal, and ironically, even though their empire collapsed, they have been sucessful in the West and their goal is on the way towards being achieved in Western Europe.

    In America the same forces are at work, but have been less universally successful. Much of the population has not been successfully indoctrinated and is pushing back. Right now the Soviet/marxist/third world oriented left has coalesced its strength and is in power. But the citizenry is pushing back as individuals and through the tea party movement and through the existing conservative establishment Republicans. The fight for America is happening now. People talk about how polarized things are and about compromise. Well, if one looks at the issues now as the fight for America – is it going leftist, social democrat, part of a world governance structure or is it going to stay the traditional civil liberties, small government, independent, capitalist country it was founded as – these issues aren’t compromisable. How the divided is going to be bridged I don’t know.

  116. Amerloque says:

    Good Morning, Dr. Dave !
    on October 7, 2010 at 4:10 pm

    /// We’re actually kind of bad asses on the world stage…like this means anything. I don’t want the world to view us as bullies or pussies. We’re just looking out for our own. ///

    There might still be some advantage to adopting the “Oderunt dum Metuant”* school of thought. Depends on what China does. Now the Obumbles has given them the moon, it’s gonna be tough going, Amerloque fears …

    *(Let them hate, so long as they fear)

  117. Amerloque says:

    Good Morning, Blackswan !
    on October 7, 2010 at 9:53 am

    /// If the CAGW program sticks to its schedule, that’ll be us – living in the forest and eating our own entrails….lol ///

    Alternatively, perhaps Meltemian (Hi Meltemian !) can invite us all to Kerkira. Amerloque lived an entire summer in a hut on the beach at Sidari. Nary a hotel in sight. (grin)

    This was during the bad old days of the Greek “Colonels”, after their coup-d’état in 1967. It was relatively cool at Sidari, though, ’cause Amerloque and his flame-at-the-time got on well with the local informer, a balding, beadyeyed, half-albino fellow with the inevitable “worry beads” in perpetual motion. His were amber.

    That was also the period when, by official decree from Athens, every Greek – and tourist in the country – was required by law to eat potatoes once a day, seven days a week.

    Amerloque’s relationship to spuds and ‘taters hasn’t been the same since. He must be one of the few resident Francophiles who will rarely touch a “frite”. (wide grin)


  118. orkneylad says:

    Locusts @3:45 pm

    Great post. 🙂

  119. fenbeagle says:

    Locusts says:
    October 7, 2010 at 3:45 pm

    Good post Locusts. Thank you

  120. orkneylad says:

    Splutta Splurp Bear @12:57 pm
    I laughed & laughed & laughed & laughed & laughed

    Sublime to the ridiculous……you folk be the judge! 🙂

    Edward PoW’s favorite fart act:
    “From time to time, there emerges from the common mass a freak of nature, an evolutionary quirk: either the exception that proves the rule or a precursor of some latent human potential. One such bizarre case was an enigmatic Frenchman, born in 1857, Joseph Pujol (an accent on Pu might have been appropriate), popularly known by his stage-name of ‘Le Petomane’, (from the French ‘Pet’ meaning a fart & ‘maniaque’), Fartist Extraordinaire. By dint of long, hard & often painful practice he had gained such astonishing control over his sphincter muscles that he could play a passable rendition of the Marseillaise through his arse, like some flatulent flautist. [It must have been something of the sort that Shakespeare’s clown was thinking of when he punningly referred to the podex – or arse musica – as a ‘wind-instrument’ (Othello)] This was not his only accomplishment. Another trick was to emit farts with sufficient force to extinguish lighted candles at a distance of several metres. His repertoire included an imitation of the San Francisco earthquake & an authentic-sounding 21 gun salute. Not surprisingly, his spectacular prowess made him the sensation of the Parisian Music Hall. From 1892, he starred at the Moulin Rouge, where he out-grossed (pun intended) even the legendary Sarah Bernhardt & became the highest paid performer of his generation. Among his audience were King Leopold II of the Belgians, Edward Prince of Wales, & Sigmund Freud (who went on to develop the theory of anal fixation.) During a court case involving a rival fraudulent female farter, who had tried to steal his act, he even gave a demonstration of his unlikely art in front of a judge.”
    the rest of this great article here:

  121. orkneylad says:

    “The Censure of the Parliament Fart”, which recounted the audible emission of the MP Henry Ludlow in 1607:

    Never was bestowed such art
    Upon the tuning of a Fart.
    Downe came grave auntient Sir John Crooke
    And redd his message in his booke.
    Fearie well, Quoth Sir William Morris, Soe:
    But Henry Ludlowes Tayle cry’d Noe. […]

  122. orkneylad says:

    I’m finding an analogy here……Augustus is the uk ‘state’ waking up…..Livia the spanner in the works…..Posthumous is our Hero.

    I Claudius episode 4 (2/6) Posthumous & Augustus.

    Getting ready for a family trip away, well-deserved break to take in some museums & other assorted culture.
    Be well, stay safe & I’ll be back online sometime on the 17th-18th Oct.
    10 days away from this unfolding 10:10 story will require some serious cramming when I get back. 🙂

    Best regards,

  123. Locusts says:

    Orkney Lad & Fenbeagle,

    Glad you liked it!

  124. Blackswan says:

    Have a safe and happy trip OL

  125. orkneylad says:

    Thanks blackswan! 🙂

    btw, after ‘overnight gestation’ they’re starting to bite over at NewTek:

    The topic above mine [carbon shatter] made me laugh……you couldn’t make it up.


  126. orkneylad says:
    October 7, 2010 at 7:16 pm

    Le Petomane also enjoys the dubious distinction of having had charges brought against him twice for people actually dying of laughter at his performances, heart attacks both.

  127. BTW, the performer providing the soundtrack to Big Daddy’s video I think is Rhett Butler, a lady standup comic of the early 1990’s, who makes these sounds on her forearm with her mouth.

  128. Pointman says:

    The snake of the ages,
    Tweeting on pages,
    Grassed up the Dyke,
    As well as the Kike.


  129. orkneylad says:

    Look at this one:

    J B

    Job title: Press Manager
    Actual job: Making sure as many people as possible know what a great job 10:10 and its supporters are doing.

    Yeah I bet you’re enjoying your job remit right now fool!
    Why is his head leaning forward in that ‘creepy’ fashion?

    Yea Gods. You know what, so that you can avoid any unpleasantness; if you see one o’ these nutbars, just lightly smile, say “no thankyou” & move on, avoiding any unpleasentness in the street.
    When you get safely home, just choose your favorite insult from the included ’emergency kit’ [below] & replay that in your head……thinking calming thoughts of Love & Peace at the same time.
    That is what I will be doing.

    The 100 Greatest Movie Insults of All Time

    I’m off….for real. :-)))
    Stay safe.

  130. Amanda says:

    Pointman, the rhyme works but is hampered by one thing: ‘kike’ is said to be the following:

    taboo: a highly offensive taboo term for a Jew (Encarta World English Dictionary)

    –noun Slang: Disparaging and Offensive . a person of Jewish religion or descent.

    A racist name for a Jewish person.
    kike is a word often used when trying to offend a jew. It means dirty jew.
    (Urban Dictionary [unreliable in terms of accuracy but does have the virtue of revealing what some people think words mean])

    Kike is a derogatory slur used to refer to a Jew. (Wikipedia [ditto])

    Just thought I’d mention it. I know your intention was not to insult anyone, Pointy, except for the clod who succeeded in throwing his weight around.

  131. Amerloque says:

    Hello Everyone !

    On first glance, it looks like the biggest rats (in this case, the NYT, on the business front page) are jumping overboard. (grin)

    For Those Near, the Miserable Hum of Clean Energy
    Published: October 5, 2010

    VINALHAVEN, Me. — Like nearly all of the residents on this island in Penobscot Bay, Art Lindgren and his wife, Cheryl, celebrated the arrival of three giant wind turbines late last year. That was before they were turned on.

    In the first 10 minutes, our jaws dropped to the ground,” Mr. Lindgren said. “Nobody in the area could believe it. They were so loud.”

    Now, the Lindgrens, along with a dozen or so neighbors living less than a mile from the $15 million wind facility here, say the industrial whoosh-and-whoop of the 123-foot blades is making life in this otherwise tranquil corner of the island unbearable.

    They are among a small but growing number of families and homeowners across the country who say they have learned the hard way that wind power — a clean alternative to electricity from fossil fuels — is not without emissions of its own.
    Lawsuits and complaints about turbine noise, vibrations and subsequent lost property value have cropped up in Illinois, Texas, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin and Massachusetts, among other states.

    In one case in DeKalb County, Ill., at least 38 families have sued to have 100 turbines removed from a wind farm there. A judge rejected a motion to dismiss the case in June.

    Like the Lindgrens, many of the people complaining the loudest are reluctant converts to the antiwind movement. …/… ///

    On first glance, it looks like the biggest rats (in this case, the NYT, on the business front page) are jumping overboard. (grin)

    However, it’s only a headline so that they can point to their “neutrality” in the future, like in a court of law … (sigh) The article is basically dismissive of complaints.

    More garbage propaganda for the simple minded.

    Now is not the time to let up !


  132. Amerloque says:

    Hi Locusts !

    Great comment earlier ! Bravo !


  133. Pointman says:

    Amanda says:
    October 8, 2010 at 2:43 am

    You’re quite right Amanda, I didn’t intend to offend anyone. When I offend people, it’s usually pretty obvious.


  134. Amanda says:

    Pointman, have you seen the special announcement by Fabian Solutions — whose name was too short — should have been Fabian Solutions To A Clogged Toilet — that he is leaving the Dental Telepath? No doubt you’ve seen the way we’ve greeted this promise with joy. Our only reservation is that perhaps he’ll come back. I hope not. I hate being screamed at in 24-point bold.

  135. Antek Bear says:

    Flattery will get you nowhere, Pointman.

  136. Amanda says:

    Bear: That’s why he doesn’t bother.

  137. Antek Bear says:

    I should add, u’vracha. Kol tuv.

  138. Pointman says:

    Amanda says:
    October 8, 2010 at 4:41 am

    As long as he doesn’t decamp to here. Oz, put the doormen on standby …


  139. Pointman says:

    Antek Bear says:
    October 8, 2010 at 4:49 am

    The truth will out. You were DiB all the time.


  140. Amanda says:

    Kol tuv u’vracha, I think you mean, don’t you?

    By the way, I’m not Jewish. I looked it up.

  141. Amanda says:

    You think it was Walt or just joshing?

  142. Edward. says:



    “I hate being screamed at in 24-point bold.”

    Amanda, if you are being screamed at, I deem you have pressed it’s (Farting expulsions) button.

    I is, endlessly impressed, Glory be!


  143. Amanda says:

    Hi Ed,
    Yes, I didn’t give a monkey’s jockstrap about the content, it’s just that having to adjust my retinal focus on a lit screen like that just didn’t feel good on the eyes. Plus, he’s a twerp.
    Shalom and molotov cocktail to you.

  144. Pointman says:

    Amanda says:
    October 8, 2010 at 4:58 am

    Trust me Amanda, it was Walt all along. He was just trying out some dialogue from a script he’s working on. There’s some dyky bits but let’s not go there …


  145. Amanda says:

    Well Pointy, I’d like to trust you but, erm, how ’bout this for a consideration. There was quite a lot of DIB, was there not? How did Walt find the time to be a major presence on this blog, while also being DIB, while also having his own life which presumably includes other things, e.g. Boston lovelies who are friendly?

  146. Amanda….. Boston lovelies is that some kind of sandwich?

  147. I believe pointman is correct DIB is definitely his style and the whole Lesbian joke is perfect Walt.

  148. Amanda says:

    No, you’re getting them mixed up with Boston shovelies.

  149. Amanda says:

    Funny if true, since I like Walt and hated DIB! Or at least, got put off early on and ceased to read. I suppose I should be more tolerant and look for the kind cuddly Walt in every obnoxious blackboard-grating troll!

  150. Pointman says:

    Multitasking is no problem for Walt. He can appear on several blogs at once because he’s got certain assets …


  151. nssher says:


    I don’t believe Dyke was female, or, therefore, a dyke.

    James has just reacquired a former poster who is one very, very, very sick poster. He wrote the only post which has ever actually concerned me for my own safety.

  152. Pointman says:

    Is that really you Hank posting as Gnasher?


  153. Amanda says:

    Nssher: Golly, really? Hmm. I wonder what the policing/public safety/litigation implications are for the DT when someone comes on who is actually threatening.

  154. Amanda says:

    When you say ‘just reacquired’, do you mean then or now? And who exactly are you? You wouldn’t be any relation to Fab Sol, would you?

  155. msher says:



  156. msher says:


    Yes, it is I, Hank, aka msher.

  157. Amanda says:

    Oh, okay: thanks Msher.

  158. Pointman says:

    Hank, I think I preferred you as Gnasher but you sound friendlier as Masher.


  159. Pointman says:

    Crown did invoke him though …


  160. msher says:


    Have you seen my avatar on James’ blog. I have acquired very big claws. The teeth ain’t anything to squeeze at either. And the tongue can wipe skin of someone’s face.

  161. Amanda says:

    Msher, I like the new picture, it’s bolder and still rather pretty.

  162. msher says:

    Buttercup, my kitty, wrote the last post under my name. Hence, the typos. Her teeth aren’t anything to sneeze at. And her tongue can peel the skin off of someone’s face. And she has very big claws.

  163. Edward. says:

    Pointman says:
    October 8, 2010 at 5:38 am

    Hiya Pointy,

    Blimey, strike me down – I knew Walt was good but not that good…………eke!


    Mazel tov to you lady. Oh yes indeed!

    Monkey’s jockstrap?? – pheeew!


  164. Amanda says:

    ‘Hank’: funny, that’s the name I give to someone’s wife. Behind her back.

  165. Amanda says:

    When I’m not calling her Sal or Hal.

  166. Amanda says:

    Hiya Ed.
    Glad you like that formulation. I’ve always thought ‘monkey’s what?’ so decided to supply the object. Feel free to suggest an improvement. :^)

  167. Edward. says:

    Amanda says:
    October 8, 2010 at 6:39 am


    Wouldn’t wanna clutter up Oz’s blog with my imprecations, would drive you all ape.


  168. fenbeagle says:

    I remember silqworm. He really went for you, for no obvious reason…… He is now posting as Stanley Lippman? Or Pink boots?
    …….Your still fluffy the leopard.

  169. msher says:


    Have you actually ever seen a mountain lion in person? They are magnificant, just gorgeous. In my view, the most beautiful of the big cats. Builders in California are building housing in their habitats in the wildest parts of the hills and mountains, so they are interacting now with humans – and inevitably authorities end up shooting them. I find that heartbreaking. As much as I am an AGW denier, I think there is something to the issue of leaving wildlife’s habitat alone, or at least minimizing the intrusion. I hate the news stories of these cats being shot. I guess the people they maul aren’t too happy either – but my view: if you buy a house up in the wild, newly developed hill sides/canyons, well then you know there are coyotes, bears, deer and mountain lions and it’s your problem to adapt to them. Different story if you buy a house on flat land which has long since ceased to be home of wildlife. Then I think humans should come first.

  170. Amanda says:

    Msher, yes I sympathize, especially since cats are Major Mammals. Though, having said that, I saw a dying bat in Texas this summer and thought it seemed rather special: lovely fluffy brown fur and otherwise jet black. I wouldn’t have seen it in the sunlight if it had been well….

    Haven’t seen a mountain lion. I think all cats are stupendously beautiful. Humans are gawky, gangly things next to them….

  171. Amanda says:

    That’s fine, Ed, we’ll stick with my solution, then. Cheers.

  172. msher says:


    I’m Buttercup the mountain lion.

    silqworm went for me because he thought I was in league with Hillary Clinton who somehow required he have a vacination before entering law school, which he attended after being fired from his big science physics job. The vacination, he said, made him sick so he lay in his dorm sweating for a whole year with the doctors not knowing what was wrong with him. (I.e., he had a pscychotic breakdown. He’s a schizoid paranoic, in my view. He has said his father thinks so too. His father incidentally is the EPA expert on something – breathing issues I think, and can be googled) He was angry I was asking you questions negative about wind power, which he is an avid proponent of. He wrote, actually, two posts. One he accused me and hillary of either castrating him or emasculating him and making him sick and said we did it because we were barren, old and menopausal. He repeated menopausal in caps for 4 inches of column. He then wrote an apology post where he mentioned the arguments we had had and what we had said and how I had apologized so he wasn’t mad anymore. Ah, those arguments never happened, the posts never occurred and he imagined the whole thing.

    A very sick puppy. Delusional people are dangerous.

  173. nssher says:


    His real name is Stanley Lippman. I have no reason to connect him with Dyke.

  174. Amanda dogs are general mammals and so outrank the cats.

    msher ah yes those old discussions silqworm is a very very scary individual and should only be allowed to eat using a plastic spoon. Lithium would do him the world of good.
    I’m surprised he’s back they must have let him out.

  175. fenbeagle says:

    It sounds wise to avoid him, thanks for the detail. It was a mystery at the time.

  176. Amanda says:

    Months back, it occurred to me right off the bat: we have no way to verify this person’s claims, and anyway, I’m not interested. Not reading someone keeps it simple!

  177. Amanda says:

    Crown: Ha ha!

  178. Pointman says:

    Pointman stopped, holding up a hand. Things didn’t smell right. His eyes narrowed and he slowly survey the situation. Safeties clicked to “rock and roll” …


  179. msher says:


    He’s way beyond lithium. I said a schizoid paranoic. I think the actual term is paranoid schizophrenic. (Those are the people who hear voices and like the kid at Virginia Tech, do mass killings.)

    Does my ID read “msher” or “nssher.” On my screen it is sometimes reading “nssher” and I don’t know why.

  180. Amanda I’m sure msher is going to promote buttercup sometime soon maybe a major general mammal.

  181. msher says:


    Well, I’m glad I cleared it up. I guess you had no idea of what Hillary and I had been up to.

  182. Amanda says:

    Speaking of berks, there’s another one on the DT right now. Has zero to say. Is just a berk. When the fragrance has improved I may return. At the mo, better things to do than hang around in a troll-induced fug.

  183. Amanda says:

    Well Msher you had me all confused. I thought you were a troll in disguise.

  184. Amanda says:

    Pointman, are you saying I should be confused again?

  185. msher says:


    I think Buttercup can take any other avatar I’ve seen so far! (She will leave cute beagles alone.) Certainly she would gulp down the cookie monster in one bite.

    Now, of course, I can’t make out what many of the avatars are, so perhaps I am wrong. I’ll change that to Buttercup can take any other avatar I can recognize. I believe that makes her queen of the jungle. (Jungle being an apt metaphor for the blog.)

  186. msher yes your name is sometimes msher sometimes nssher. I remember our discussions about silqworm he has his little moments doesn’t he. Unless he is on meds at some point I expect he will be heading towards Washington to meet Hilary and I expect to see him mentioned on the news. He really needs to be inside an institution for his own good. Having lived near a nuthouse (PC term) you tend to learn a thing or two about crazy people from the staff. Paranoid Schizophrenics are dangerous and can turn on a dime and hurt someone. It is a possibility a lot of major religious figures throughout history were schizophrenics which goes to explain a lot.

  187. Amanda says:

    Buttercup’s a lovely name for a mountain lion. What would a leopard be? Black-eyed Susan?

  188. Amanda says:

    Strange how the name keeps changing back and forth. Reminds me of that Agatha Christie spy novel, called N Or M?

  189. Pointman says:

    Amanda says:
    October 8, 2010 at 7:37 am

    Let’s just say wary.


  190. Amanda says:

    Okay, wary works for me, hon.

  191. msher says:


    My leopard was Kitty. My jaguar is Spot. My Siberian tiger is Frosty. My lionness is “Tawny.”


    There was lots more about silqworm, in terms of his posts and links and who he is mad at (MIT and Lindzen, among others). Not worth going through the details, but a very sick puppy.


    Yes, my ID keeps changing. I don’t know why. I am not changing it.

    He also believes Jews are the real master race, and has written long diatribes about it on the JD blog. I’m surprised they weren’t pulled.

    Very harshly toilet trained, I’d say – Oz

  192. Pointman says:

    So does your ‘fist’.


  193. msher says:


    Are you trying to warn me that a very young Richard Burton is going to kill me?

  194. msher says:


    Also – don’t know why you think my “fist” changes – more than it does for anyone. We’re all serious sometimes, not at other times, fresh with good writing sometimes, stale with stale writing atothers, friendly to some posters and subjects and hostile to others, etc. etc.

    But, stuff it, anyway. It’s not your blog.

  195. I love wireless hotspots. They are everywhere now that I can carry my own. HTC’s Evo 4G rules!

    Not that anyone would believe me, but erm, actually, I am not DiB. All my characters are femme dykes, Laura Ashley all the way (with a Harley in the garage, of course).

    I’ve no idea who DiB is. Stanley Lippman is completely off meds and roaring starkers, in Washington state, and looking for brains to chew on.

  196. Dr. Dave says:


    I gotta know how you happen to have these big cats. I have heard (though I don’t really know) that leopards are second only to jaguars in terms of dangerous big cats to be around. I’ve heard it said that lions and tigers, though big and potentially deadly, are nowhere near as unpredictable as leopards and that jaguars are the worst.

    Maybe I missed something in a comment thread, I don’t know. I’ve known a few folks who had big cats (all lions) and bears. As I remember they said that keeping them fed can impoverish you. The guy who owned both lions and bears said he was more afraid of the bears than the lions.

  197. Mystified Bear pity it was not you seemed to be your mischievous nature showing through. So this is going to take a lot more Scooby snacks to solve.

  198. Exactly why were shaggy and Scooby so hungry all the time and why was smoke seen coming from the mystery wagon?

  199. msher says:

    Dr. Dave

    Well, I happen to have these big cats in my mind. The cats in my house weigh about 10 pounds.

    I have read a lot of books about the big cats, including all the books written by the trainers. They don’t train jaguars, so I can’t speak about them. But they all say leopards are the most dangerous – the meanest and most unpredictable. If you want a fantastic book, track down Gunter Gabel Williams book. He was the first to train leopards. He is dead now, but he grew up in German circuses, became a star, came to America and ended up an owner of Ringling Brothers. He writes about Nazi Germany, about European circus life, about American circus life (i.e., how they actually live and travel and raise their children), the mechanics of actually doing circuses – e.g., how you get the elephants into Madison Square Garden, and mostly about the animals: how they are trained and how they differ and how trainers have to treat each differently and use different safety measures. A bookstore called Powell’s in Oregon and on-line tracks down old books. Or maybe it is still on Amazon. But if the cats interest you, this book is a must. I don’t remember the title, but the author should be enough.

  200. I lurk at the DT once a week or so for about 10 minutes at JD’s just to remind me why I don’t go there for anything but the headlines and the odd review (photo section is nice, though).

    I’ve no idea who is the DiB, except it isn’t No Idea, and it isn’t Izen’t. LOL

  201. Mystified Bear… pointman says it not him it won’t be msher or amanda as they don’t do crude humour. It wasn’t me. A ewanme perhaps who is apparently a 50 year old bald guy from Belfast and has two personnas one female one male that I am aware of and he did meet up manfromwaterloobridge for a liason which does not bear thinking about.

  202. Amanda says:

    Crown, I don’t think anyone suspected it was me. (heh heh: Like I say, it’s always the ones you least suspect — in Agatha Christie).

    However, I was wondering about Msher and Pointman who seemed to be making nice and that seemed a turn-up for the books. But they’ve had a growl so I’m glad we’ve got that over and done with.

    Dr Dave: I do believe Msher’s right about leopards, as I also have a wonderful book on the big cats. It’s been a while since I’ve read it, but if memory serves, jaguars have proportionately larger heads (I think) and more powerful jaws, and can crush the skulls of their prey in one bite (depending on what it is, I suppose). Leopards are slightly less robust but they are the night-time stalker par excellence, extremely canny, totally stealthy, silent, agile, the whole scary package. You cannot have a leopard as a pet. It will eat you.

  203. Amanda says:

    Crown: I don’t think Ewanme is clever enough and even if s/he is, s/he’s too interested in being Ewanme. But I can’t really comment since I hardly read any DIB posts.

  204. Pointman says:

    Mystified Bear says:
    October 8, 2010 at 8:49 am

    Admit it Walt. DiB was your magnum opus but the bitch got out of control.


  205. Amanda says:

    I think the correct term Pointman is ‘magnificent octopus’. Once you’ve written one you have to eat a turnip in celebration.

  206. Amanda says:

    and he did meet up manfromwaterloobridge for a liason which does not bear thinking about.
    No, it doesn’t, Crown, and fancy telling us that! There’s showing off, which — ahem– some people apparently think I’m guilty of, and then there’s exhibitionism. Or anyway TMI.

  207. pointman are you saying mystified bear released his inner Lesbian onto the world.

  208. amanda for some reason I felt compelled to share that last gem there were more details I am trying my best to forget I had better join the Foreign Legion.

  209. Plenty of panthers running about the English countryside these day supposed to be lions in the highlands of Scotland as well.

  210. Blackswan says:

    Good morning/evening All,

    Can I intrude on your in-depth analysis of felines and the trashy contributors of the DT?

    In our country right now three young men of our Military Forces are under criminal prosecution for the deaths of children in Afghanistan. Courts Martial are being convened as the men have been charged in relation to these deaths.

    Long story short, an SAS patrol came under fire from an Insurgent in a building and their return fire killed all in the room including children. The Taliban are increasingly using women and children as human shields in the belief that we in the West will not retaliate.

    This morning I found a link to a Petition to our Forces Commander in Chief, the Governor General.

    Even though most of the patrons (or lurkers) to the Bar & Grill are not Aussie citizens, can I ask everybody to sign this petition?

    We all have soldiers in harm’s way in the same conflicts. The Petition allows for foreign signatories and Comments and I’d ask you all to consider adding your “voices”
    to ours in demanding an end to these prosecutions.

    Our soldiers did not go hunting women and children, they did not go hunting innocent civilians, they did not gather trophies of their “kills”, they did not photograph their exploits for bragging rights.

    They were highly-trained Soldiers on a mission under orders from their Commanders and “in our name”, and we cannot abandon them to a politically-correct witch-hunt which will blight their lives forever.

    Please help.

  211. Pointman says:

    Blackswan says:
    October 8, 2010 at 9:47 am

    Not a problem mate. You’ve got my signature and I’ll ask friends in the blogosphere and the real world to add their names too.


  212. Blackswan says:

    Pointman says:
    October 8, 2010 at 9:57 am

    Thank you.

  213. Pointman says:

    crownarmourer says:
    October 8, 2010 at 9:41 am

    The pieces are all there in front of you Crown, just put them together. Boot,Boston, pink,power plant, in,Irish, Die,Dyke. Captain Insano will be proud of you.


  214. Pointman says:

    Blackswan says:
    October 8, 2010 at 10:03 am

    Swan, usually when something like that happens, you pay condolence money to the family (about $US 2,500) and apologise. Not our way I know but that’s the form in Afghanistan. Why hasn’t it happened this time?


  215. Blackswan says:

    Pointman says:
    October 8, 2010 at 10:07 am

    That may well have happened in this case, but I don’t know.

    In Oz in recent years such Courts Martial have been taken out of the hands of the Military Chain of Command and vested in the person of one Individual – in this case a female Reservist Lawyer operating out of an office in Canberra – a Brigadier who never saw a war zone in her life – a Public Servant, one-time Deputy Coroner from Darwin, who, as Director of Military Prosecutions, has decided these Soldiers must answer Criminal Charges for the deaths of civilians in a fire-fight after coming under attack.

    I see this entire farcical charade as an affront to EVERY soldier who EVER fought in ANY War under the Australian Flag. Or any other Flag fighting for Freedom for that matter.

    Thanks for your support.

  216. mlpinaus says:

    Blackswan says:
    October 8, 2010 at 9:47 am

    Signed. Words fail me.


  217. Amanda says:
    October 8, 2010 at 9:28 am

    Ewanme is missing her/his calling as dialogue coach. I could read her/him for hours. If it is a fictitious identity, I would love to lift that stone to see who it is, even if that stone weighs several tonnes.

    Pointman says:
    October 8, 2010 at 10:03 am

    That IS the Net in a nutshell. And I do mean nuts.

    Crown, I wish in my wildest dreams I could assume an identity like DiB’s just to craft the dialogue. No, I’m not using the Net to try on characters anymore. Doesn’t work. Theatre and people communicating are two different things: the stage is a one-way pitch, real life both ways. It ain’t a match. Tried that. Doesn’t work as a tool. In fact, it set me back months.

    Craft is creation, not simulation. There is not even a near fit. That is the big lie of cinema verite. Cinema verite is more hokeyfied than Shakespeare. It is not closer to real life. There is the unreal, which is Hollywood’s creation, then there is the reel, which is what the film is rolled onto.

  218. It would be funny if Ewanme were practicing truth in advertising to the letter. If so, she is the closest to the British animus I recognize from my youth in the Ealing and Pinewood Studios films and in the British immigrants in my neighborhood.

    The first thing I thought first hearing the Beatles’s songs in 1963 at age 13 on my 3-transistor Motorola radio on the amplitude modulated band, was “Where is the accent?” It’s odd how audiences mutate the performers’ culture of origin.

  219. Blackswan says:

    BTW, if anyone mistakenly thinks I’m a gungho supporter of these Iraq/Afghanistan conflicts – I am not, and never was.

    However, my political beliefs would never allow me to morally abandon young men and women who have been sent to war under our Flag.

    We have an entirely Volunteer Military Force – nobody has been conscripted.

    If I have an argument of ideology with the Political Establishment, I will undertake that fight in a forum where it belongs, not remain silent when young Australians are being pilloried for their participation, under orders, in Wars for which I offer no support.

  220. Signed as well, Blackswan. Over and out, wing leader. :>)

  221. Amanda says:

    Blackswan, I signed the petition and FYI added this comment:

    Please don’t make the defence of civilization and warfighting in that cause a criminal offence. Don’t send the message to our soldiers that if the enemy doesn’t get you, your own government will.

  222. Blackswan says:

    mlpinaus says:
    October 8, 2010 at 10:57 am

    Thanks Marcus.

  223. Amanda says:

    But Bear, it’s hard to sing an accent. Most accents in singing achieve a sort of neutrality unless the singer is consciously trying for something else. Most Brits sound less British and more generically, mid-Atlantic American. In pop music, only American country singers of today sound as broad in their songs as they do in their conversation.

  224. Blackswan says:

    Mystified Bear & Amanda

    Thanks to you both.

  225. Amanda says:

    So what you’re saying, Bear, is that au contraire, Ewanme is plenty clever because Ewanme writes Ewanme’s dialogue. Yeah, okay, but once you’ve got the formula, s/he never tries to do anything ambitious with it. It’s a style not a substance. On the other hand, to the extent that blogs are a hall of mirrors, far be it from me to venture further without the facts….

  226. Amanda says:

    Blackswan: I’m glad you informed us.

  227. Pointman says:

    Blackswan says:
    October 8, 2010 at 11:12 am

    Some wars are winnable, some are not and the latter’s usually caused by inept leadership, military and above all political. In that situation …


  228. Amanda says:

    So in the Where Is Pointman? game, let me guess: you’re one of the guys in the front:


  229. Amanda says:

    P. S. Note the absence of wetsuits! Or suit and tie!

  230. Pointman says:

    Amanda says:
    October 8, 2010 at 12:01 pm

    “…Where Is Pointman? game …”

    “This suspense is killing me …”


  231. Amanda says:

    Mr A and I were just discussing rats in Florida (he claims to have seen one the other day). They like the fruit that falls from the fruit trees and then, in cool weather, they like somewhere congenial to eat it. Hence you must deny them the fruit or the shelter. I said: they MUST have predators, surely? He said: no, just rat killer and Truly Nolen*.

    Rats. Rubbish. Bobwhites, bobcats, alligators — yes. Bald eagles, ospreys, and even Florida panthers. (There’s a rare cat for you, Msher: Florida panthers.) Armadillos, and spiders nearly as big as my palm. But in Florida I’ve never seen rats. Which is just as well for both of us.

    *They drive around in yellow cars with Mickey Mouse ears on the roof and a tail on the boot.

  232. Amanda says:

    Well you’re certainly not anywhere on American territory, then:
    ‘This video contains content from Sony Music Entertainment, who has blocked it in your country on copyright grounds’.

    Care to let us know what it is?

  233. Blackswan says:

    Pointman says:
    October 8, 2010 at 11:41 am

    Probably the best advice given to anyone….. occurs to me frequently hereabouts.

    Just goes to show – never enter any conflict of any kind with anyone in any arena without a viable exit strategy.

  234. Pointman says:

    Billie Holiday – Love me or Leave me


  235. Amanda says:

    When I worked (briefly) in the Canadian public service, we had small windowless interview rooms, and the chair on wheels near the door (i.e. the exit) was always taken by us, and not by the public, just in case one of them turned out to be nuts….

  236. Amanda says:

    Pointman: Well, that narrows it down, then. You can only be on one of the other continents, or on any one of the islands in between, or on a ship….

  237. Blackswan says:

    Amanda says:
    October 8, 2010 at 12:47 pm

    Exactly. Lucky for me the chair I’m sitting on has wheels……….

  238. Amanda says:

    Blackswan: :^)

  239. Pointman says:

    The Sun goes down behind Mount Improbable and all is still in Wallawoora, except for the keening of Squirrels and the Lethe flowing. Night all.


  240. Ozboy says:

    OK currency traders and conspiracy theorists…

    The Aussie dollar touched parity with the greenback today, for the first time since it was floated in 1983. I’m guessing this is merely symptomatic of the general pressure the US dollar is under at the moment, and the suspicion many hold that Brucker Bummer is planning to print his way out of debt (i.e., an inflationary default). Or is it something more sinister still?

  241. Amanda says:

    Not my favourite of theirs BTW but as usual my faves are not on YT.

  242. Blackswan says:

    Pointman says:
    October 8, 2010 at 1:02 pm

    Shedding those Silken Fetters……….g’nite Pointman

  243. Still not there yet LOL! (Grrr grumble) Didn’t pack enough baby seals either in my lunchbox….

    Amanda, I hadn’t realized that clearly until you sang your song in the flat and Teutonic American vowels which characterize our argot.

    Also, to Ewanme and an entire generation, style is the only substance worth noticing. That’s the entire problem with 2010 LOL! No, it’s too well crafted. Might be a staffer at the DT, a woman of a certain age who remembers the Docklands and grew up there or maybe in Marylebone as a scruffy street urchin during the Blitz, and is lighting a yahrzeit candle eternally for her mother whose diction she remembers as if it were yesterday.

    Real writers shouldn’t blog LOL! Ye see toooo mooch fer yer own gud.

  244. Blackswan says:

    Ozboy @ 1.07pm

    Nobody seems too perturbed except Aussie tourists thrilled that it’ll be cheaper to get into Disneyland.

    The smell of printers ink is wafting about even from this far away.

    Sinister? Bummer? Nevaah!!

  245. Ozboy, the Prez would knock one out of the park if he called China and said “Hi. This is Barack Obama. Export Minister? I got this to say to you. If you think you are going to destroy us with your exports you can take three steps backward and f**k yourself in the face. Can you say ‘Chinese import embargo?’ Say it back to me so I know you got the message. It’s been fun, thanks for the parties, now I got my people to put back to work. If you want work, I’ll take a double beef broccoli to go and my aide will drop off my shirts in the morning. Light on the starch, got it?” But then he would lose his Young Pioneer red bandana and hammer and sickle bandana clasp LOL!

    Devalued currency means more exports. It’s a good thing.

  246. Amanda says:

    Real writers shouldn’t blog LOL! Ye see toooo mooch fer yer own gud.

    I’m a ‘real writer’. What do you mean, Walt?

  247. Amanda says:

    Walt, I hope not too flat. One likes to think one sings with a certain fullness. Like today, I was singing one of my songs in the kitchen without thinking about it and suddenly thought, ‘hey, that sounds good!’.

  248. Amanda says:

    Walt, the Blitz is rather a long time ago, isn’t it?

  249. Amanda says:

    Walt, but it also means you PAY more for imports. And it also means the pound gets ridiculous again, and I do often buy things in British pounds.

    I love it when I get a bank statement from my account in England. The interest is generally 1p. This month I have about 188 quid in there. Well, it’s a toe-hold in England and besides, it’s the thought that counts!

  250. Amanda….Yes oil is imported and as the dollar falls it gets more expensive, welcome to the $5 per gallon and economic collapse and the depression really sets in, wages stagnate and the only people getting even richer are the bankers, wall street and hedge fundies.
    At that time we rise up and hang the bloody lot of them, it will also be time to reenact the war of 1812 but this time we burn the whole place down. Or we could all hold hands and sing cwm by yah. Option one is more fun.

  251. Blackswan says:

    Rumbly Bear (you aren’t Big Daddy I hope)

    “more exports. It’s a good thing.”

    I dunno. We are told the same thing but as I’m not a manufacturer or exporter I only have the perspective of the average consumer (who has zero inclination to go to Disneyland).

    Every time we score an international market deal for anything the price in the domestic market-place goes through the roof, with the best quality going off-shore.

    Some of the best produce grown in this country isn’t even available here and we pay top dollar for what’s left. As for Manufacturing – huh – what Manufacturing? You’ll find it all in China, India, Indonesia, Sth Korea, Taiwan.

    Sorry to tell you, but the only things in my house “made in USA” are a bottle of Tabasco and my stock of canned salmon. Methinks they won’t save your economy.

    BTW – anything in your house made in Australia? Oops, we’re doomed…lol

    Even bloody Vegemite is owned by your blokes – none other than Kraft or is that Philip Morris? All the same thing – we’re screwed.

  252. Amanda says:

    Well please don’t hang Mr A, Crown, he’s an ex-Financial District worker. Currently miserable and overworked as a teacher in Florida, living in a rental with Jimi Hendrix next door and a DIYer with a chainsaw on the other; wondering whether Mrs (that’s me) will finally hit the Big Time or any time worth having. I don’t mean songs; I mean the other thing.

  253. It DOES sound good Amanda. It irks me you think I was pulling your chain. I still have my thirty year old ticket with the American Music Teachers Association. Get a wireless headset and sing into it as you would in the kitchen, not “opening up” and belting it, and have it connected to the computer recorder (use a blinking light metronome with it too so you can synch it with a soundtrack).

    I think Ewanme the poster is in their 60’s or more. You’ll note the letter-perfect punctuation on the slang as if she or he grew up reading Kipling.

    Real writers would be writing copy not posting. I do two days of madhouse work a week on the script(s) and whatnot related to it, then spend the rest of the time thinking about it. A REAL scriptwriter works it 8 to 5. My writing work now is financing “pitch” scribblings now to induce people to pony up the shekels.

  254. We don’t really have a Federal international commerce department now, we have jobsworths, OzBoy. Same at your end. Wouldn’t be that way if the draft were still on because guess what? Neither of our nations are nations anymore, there is no unity. To even think it is silly. Unity is what goes on for 90 minutes at soccer matches or football stadiums. That’s the real problem. The free market can’t do it all.

  255. Amanda says:

    Blackswan: Tabasco is very good — we even bought up a number of special Reserve bottles — but I also like Crystal (southern and hot but not ridiculous, and cheap), and Frank’s Original Red Hot (for some reason his later ‘Red Hot’ was mild and hardly worth the bother — courting those that don’t like spicy, I suppose). We usually have 5 or 6 different kinds of hot sauces on the go in my house at any given time. One or two in the cupboard (that Mr says he will cook with) I’m actually afraid of. Drink it and you’d die:

  256. You have to make your own Big Time. If you went to the Website or the BMI Website, Amanda, or the American Federation of Musicians website, you’d sort out there is a paying market for working songwriters that you can plug into. It’s not fantasyland, it is a real business world where people pay cash for good work and don’t mind paying.

    It’s work.

  257. Hit the local AF of M union hall with your lyrics, ask a pianist or guitarist or group if they will do a demo of your stuff for a percentage of the take on a song or two, and Bob’s yer uncle. You have a computer. Do a demo disc master reproducible, then dupe it at home on demand. 10 bucks a pop times 100 a month to start is how much?

  258. Copyright the lot first in MP3 or MP4 at You can do a batch copyright upload for 30 something bucks and you are covered. You then have intellectual property to sell, just like a house.

  259. Blackswan says:

    crownarmourer says:
    October 8, 2010 at 2:20 pm

    Hi Crown

    We’ve been paying $5 (and more) a gallon for fuel for some time and I’m still waiting for the bonfire. I think Electricity prices might provide the match we need.

  260. Amanda says:

    Walt, I did not note the punctuation but I do always note mistakes and therefore Ewanme must be pretty free of them. I defer to your judgement/guesses on other aspects (I spell judgement UK style with an exra E; see also H. W. Fowler).

    No need to be irked because you are an absolute doll to me on the subject of my singing. And yes it sounds better in the kitchen because I’m just feeling the notes and not trying to convey something to anybody: today I was hardly aware that I was singing or why I’d thought of the song:

    ‘The bell has rung;
    it’s last call —
    I’m going to bed…
    You can drink your wine;
    I’ll be holding
    my pillow instead….’

    Gosh I do miss the pubs in England.

    Thanks about connecting the computer; I am not stupido with technical things but on the other hand, nor am I the least bit expert.

    As for writing, yes, a serious writer cranks it out rain or shine. I’m still at the thinking and researching stage, though.

    Everything in my life now is a question mark. Well, nearly everything.

  261. Do a nice version of all your stuff in your best business suit with the headset just like you did your online version, and include a .doc or .pdf version of the lyrics in your copyright upload. I would use the online free music at as your music source, though. It’s entirely free under the Gnu open licence, but you have to let the mobygratis folks know.

    BTW, that music is usually used as the background music of what they call non-exploitative pron, which uses animated characters like those from, not people. No one gets hurt, nobody gets strung out on drugs, no one ends up chained to organized crime. That’s a huge industry which is actually supported by the provincial government in Quebec LOL! It’s one of the reasons why they aren’t up to their necks in pedo’s and sex slayings like here. Next time you are up there check out Canal Bleu (the Blue Channel) where they actually show pron which is based on husband and wife in a home environment basically as if it were a training film, sort of. Brady Bunch meets Johnny Wad. Even the Church up there are not so silent partners in this. TMI? Everyone on the planet is not completely stoopid about essential things in which people NEED to be taught what is right and what is wrong.

    Anyway, it’s good free studio background music for your songs, but you might get a guffaw or two out of the studio listeners at ASCAP who know the markets.

    Do it. You’ll like it. Music people are nice, if you are, which you are.

  262. It sounds better in the kitchen or bathroom because you can actually hear yourself singing and you therefore adjust your voice to stay in pitch. THAT’S why stage musicians where those headset things, it’s to hear themselves. They are 10-15 bucks a complete set.

  263. Amanda says:

    Walt, I shall have to look at your last three messages again in the morning when I am less tired (I’m about to expire for the evening). Some thoughts: you are a dear to be so encouraging; success at anything requires not only A + B but A +B, C, D, E, F, G and hopefully Y; on the one hand, I love my songs (most of them); on the other hand, a song is a grain of sand on the beach, as useful and as common. I think I have two things: proper pride, and (not unrelated) a proper humility. Also, artistry is not the same as selling (even though I have nothing against selling in principle). As with love, as I told my mum once, ‘it’s so simple, and it’s so complicated’. :^) Goodnight.

  264. You’ll do okay. Patience is the key word. My script started on the blog of Ceri Radford in 2006. It still is ongoing. If everything stays on track, it won’t be until December 2012 until there is a full blueline and wireframe for the animation’s 40-odd scenes to assemble. Completion will be 2013 or 2014 at the earliest.

  265. Blackswan hi, last time we had those prices it tanked the economy and put quite a few million out of work. The last time was deliberate to deliver the election to Obama of course. We shall see what November brings either new blood determined to change things or the same people different label.

  266. Blackswan and OzBoy, China’s currency is worth blowing your nose on, and they are making progress. It all depends on how the earnings from export are deployed and how domestic industry is developed. You need to have a nation first. We and you don’t have one per se now. Just a crowd of people fisticuffing each other almost at random as the ship is sinking.

  267. Dr. Dave says:


    You speak the Cygnus atratus truth! Recently one of our brain dead talking heads actually espoused the benefits of inflation by saying “well, it will make the money in your pocket less valuable, but it will increase the value of the things you own, like your house”. This is like saying if I cut off one of your hands you’ll benefit by only needing to buy one glove.

    Letting Obama and the Democrats drive the boat that is our nation is like giving a fifth of whiskey, a credit card and the keys to your Corvette to a teenage boy and telling him to “have fun”. People are shocked that bad shit actually happens.

    I wouldn’t necessarily bet the farm on it, but I expect the price of gold to drop and the US$ to rebound after the first of the year. As an aside, I don’t think I ever have anything made in Australia in my home except some of your wine (which the little lady buys) or some beer (which I buy once in a while…well…actually I buy beer all the time, just not Australian beer). You see, we can’t outsource our jobs to Australia…you have unions, you pay too well and have too high a standard of living.


  268. I think also you have to realize that exports now are primarily in the industrial goods and capital goods markets. Consumer goods and retail have never been the mainstay of any Western economy. They aren’t 70% of the international market. OEM subassemblies and parts and process materials moving to the processing point are.

  269. Amanda says:

    P. S. Walt — Do people sing in their business suits? I have a handful of suits, mainly skirts and jacket, mainly Georgiou, but I prefer dresses overall. Would seem more natural. Being in a suit would feel like being back at Discover in Chicagoland!

  270. I CAN’T SLEEP!!! YAAAGH!!!!

    Sorry. I feel better now that I’ved screamed. LOL

    Give ‘er another go….

  271. Amanda says:

    Good grief, Walt. You do sound dedicated. But ‘patience’ is the key word? I thought ‘integration is the key word’! Would my grandad’s birthday card lie?

  272. It would show you mean business nicely, and that you don’t “do” cute. A dark blue silk, heather-tone Harris tweed or maroon chamois with dark velvet lapel biz ensemble with a white blouse should do it. Moderate the frills or they’ll think you are a Sunday school teacher.

  273. Good night :>) Force of habit, not dedication so much. It’d be fun to see how it works out.

  274. Amanda says:

    Walt, for your benefit, a line or two from a lullaby I wrote (not for a child; it just came to me):

    now is the rain fast falling
    now is the curtain drawn
    nothing but sleep is calling
    a train chugging through to dawn…

  275. mlpinaus says:

    Blackswan says:
    October 8, 2010 at 2:49 pm

    Don’t think so… Here, anyway. Life just seems too comfortable. The only real signs of financial distress are the cars that are for sale beside the road. Portable, relatively high value item. Quite a few such this long weekend. America, maybe….. read J Howard Kunstlers blog, or… BorePatch. The high Aussie dollar is scary too.


  276. Amanda says:

    I love maroon and in fact have a maroonish suit… good night.

  277. Blackswan says:

    mlpinaus says:
    October 8, 2010 at 3:14 pm

    G’day Marcus

    You’re right about the roadside car sales. Heaps of them around here – even a few tinnies on trailers.

    On my recent trip I went off the highway a number of times to various little towns and regional cities and noticed the same thing everywhere. One of the reasons I too want to dispense with our 2nd car is that the ongoing rego and insurance alone are an unnecessary expense. I’ve been trying to GIVE it away and no takers. Great little car but nobody else wants the overheads either.

    IMHO when western economies have been based on Credit and Consumerism and folks begin “trimming the fat” and addressing needs instead of wants, look out and make sure you have some extra notches in your belt.

    BTW glad you got back from Qld safe and sound.

  278. Blackswan says:

    Dr. Dave says:
    October 8, 2010 at 3:05 pm

    G’day Dave

    I think you’re right on all counts – amazing how complacent people can be, thinking “the Govt knows what it’s doing” and trusting in Providence to see things right.

    BTW (with our conversation yesterday in mind) did you see my post at 9:47 am ?
    I’d be interested in your point of view


    PS Thanks to your lady for buying Aussie wine – we’re planning our next trip to check out some more cellar doors. Dontcha just love a road trip in wine country? All those souvenirs to bring home…lol

  279. mlpinaus says:

    Blackswan says:
    October 8, 2010 at 3:50 pm
    The local councils “are cracking down” on these sales here. The powers that be always use words like this about things they don’t understand, or can’t control. I do suspect that the consumer society of “new is best”, and “cheap terms sir” is under threat. The impossible to fix nature of most electronic stuff pisses me off as well. It was never part of the design brief. Sound like a GREENY, Marcus.
    Thanks for the aeroplane thought. The build has been delayed by the integration of the auto-pilot until 2nd week, November. Then I’ll increase my carbon footprint…….


  280. Blackswan says:


    When the Greens deplore our “Throw-away Society”, anyone would think we had a choice in the matter. Try fixing anything today. Do you remember when a simple powerpoint lead had a couple of screws in the plug and we could shorten it as required. Now they’re a sealed unit. How about the old electric kettles? Came with an easily replaceable element. Don’t get me started….oops, too late. Try repairing shoes in the past 30 years? – half-soles, heels – our family shoe-last ended up as a doorstop…LOL, along with blacksmiths bellows and anvils I guess.

    Councils have tried putting a stop to those car sales but it doesn’t seem to be working for them. Hey Marcus wanna free car? It’s only 20 years old. Runs on a mere whiff of sugar-cane juice. No? I’ll have to think of something else.


  281. mlpinaus says:

    Blackswan says:
    October 8, 2010 at 4:45 pm

    Its easy to go into grumpy old fart mode. Spent the last 20 years or so with my company, in Australia, making and selling electronics stuff that was well documented and designed to be fixed. Hard now to even get the bits in Australia to do this at all…… This was niche, high end stuff, essentially with no competition.
    The powers that be decided we needed digital tv…. (real motivation …to sell off the rf spectrum made available by the forced demise of analogue.) What they did not consider was the resulting flood of functional but essentially useless crt tv sets.
    Local councils have just had a “recyle ” day for these….. yeah, right…..


  282. Blackswan says:


    The Law of Unintended Consequences……. ever wondered what future archeologists will make of our landfill sites?

  283. Blackswan says:

    Did everyone know that today (the 8th) is International Egg Day?

    Animal Activists (pun intended) staged demonstrations in Hobart today. Don’t get me wrong – I abhor battery egg production, battery piggeries, cattle feed-lots, force-feeding geese and puppy farms – but the same faces showed up as those campaigning on Climate Change.

    Speaking of puppy farms – ever wondered why we export over 10,000 fat little Labrador pups to Singapore each year? Funny that. All those apartment-dwelling folks with great big dogs. Yeah, right.

    Speaking of free-range eggs – have you built your chook run yet Ozboy?

    You mean restored the other one, Swanny – I showed you all what happened to the first one.

    No, not yet and it’s probably going to have to wait now until March. I have my mate the “chook whisperer” coming to stay with us then – Oz

  284. NoIdea says:

    According to the Email notifications I receive from WordPress, Amanda had posted a reply to Walt, between Blackswans most recent posts.

    I still do not see it on screen at LG, is this a glitch? or just me?


    Nothing in the Pending queue – Oz

  285. Blackswan says:


    Don’t laugh – chooks love being whispered, sung and talked to.

    Try going to your nearest battery hen establishment and buying some of the past-their-use-by hens – they’re usually young, but deemed “worn out” by the farmer. I would, but the urge to violence would be more than I could restrain

    Don’t let Mrs Oz see when you bring them home – she’ll cry all afternoon. Their feet are twisted from life in a cage and they can’t walk, but a little chooky foot massage and propping them up a bit while they get the hang of it (much like Baby Oz) and they eventually toddle about. Most of their feathers are missing too. Their upper beaks have been cut off so as not to peck their neighbours in the next cage but they never grow back so some mash mix is appreciated by them.

    A few months later and you won’t believe the difference. Full plumage, plump red wattles, happy feet and prodigious egg-laying. We really loved our orphan hens and they sure returned the favour. Give it a go and see what happens.

    BTW Did you see my post this morning about the Petition? I’d be interested in your comments and whether you minded me posting it. Maybe I should have asked first. No probs Swanny – Oz

  286. Blackswan says:

    G’day NI

    Is it this one?

    //Amanda says:
    October 8, 2010 at 3:15 pm

    I love maroon and in fact have a maroonish suit… good night.//

  287. NoIdea says:

    Hiya, Ozboy and Blackswan.

    The missing post I saw was…

    “Walt, I shall have to look at your last three messages again in the morning when I am less tired (I’m about to expire for the evening). Some thoughts: you are a dear to be so encouraging; success at anything requires not only A + B but A +B, C, D, E, F, G and hopefully Y; on the one hand, I love my songs (most of them); on the other hand, a song is a grain of sand on the beach, as useful and as common. I think I have two things: proper pride, and (not unrelated) a proper humility. Also, artistry is not the same as selling (even though I have nothing against selling in principle). As with love, as I told my mum once, ‘it’s so simple, and it’s so complicated’. :^) Goodnight.”

    Lost in the ether?


  288. Edward says:


    My name and comment has been added to your link – to the petition.
    I am appalled, at this betrayal (of the troops) and at, what is happening in your great country, this is ignoble and counter productive in the extreme.

    What the f**k is going on?


  289. Blackswan says:

    G’day Ed

    What’s going on is that the convening of Courts Martial has been taken out of the Military Chain of Command and is now the responsibility of a Director of Military Prosecutions who is a Left-wing Feminist Lawyer, one-time Deputy Coroner in Darwin, a Public Servant and Reservist who wears the tag of Brigadier but who has never seen action in a hot war zone and operates out of an office in Canberra.

    That’s what’s going on.

    Your support is appreciated.

  290. NoIdea says:
    October 8, 2010 at 7:47 pm

    The Net here in the States is acting oddly, NI. I’ve no idea what’s going one. Last I checked there was some sort of alert on.

    A lot of it comes down to the old American Jaycee (Junior Chamber of Commerce, once a drinking club and social service volunteer group for budding entrepreneurs): “Ya gotta wanna do it.” Artistic creations, to me, once the patina of newness and brilliance wears off, are a nuisance one wishes one had made provision for selling off, especially if, once you are gone, there is no one to hear or look at your creations anymore.

  291. I don’t think that is brutal or cynical to observe, either. No one’s works are immortal nor have they the right to be, anymore than I am. Getting paid for doing good work is fitting and proper so one can make use of that patina of newness and brilliance, and hopefully, if one is inclined to be generous, make provision for the next generation of creators through providing them your legacy upon which to build their works.

  292. Yeah, something weird is up with the Net. It’s this alert stuff again. Apparently Five O’Clock Charlie is tooling up for having another go at us. Boring.

  293. Insert the word “motto” after Jaycee. Time for more coffee.

  294. Amanda says:
    October 8, 2010 at 3:07 pm

    A demo and copyright recording of your works is as much an interview as it is a performance, typically. That’s a cultural thing. Most people you bump into have had some sort of formal training. Think of it as a recital, in both the musical and legal sense.

  295. Edward says:

    Blackswan says:
    October 8, 2010 at 8:21 pm

    No worries Swanny.

    We’ve had our own attempted prosecutions over here, nothing like that though.

    There are no rules in war.

    I never have and never would, criticise the squaddies, that’s for the NCO’s to do (in house as it were), I’ve criticised a few generals, retrospectively, ah the certainty of hindsight………………… and of the pomposity – similarly, trying to tack peace time civil law lunacy onto a combat situation.


  296. Pointman says:

    Climate Wars in the New Social Media

    “In the last decade, there has been a significant expansion from consumption of traditional mass media – broadcast television, newspapers, radio – into consumption of new and social media, such as various uses of the internet and mobile phone communication.”

    This author of this rather academic piece asks some interesting questions without managing to address any of them. Academia. The probable answer to most of them, is bad news for the MSM, as currently constituted.


  297. Pointman says:

    “Get the anti-science bent out of politics”

    Michael Mann gets to do an OpEd in the Washington Post and has the cheek to say –

    “My fellow scientists and I must be ready to stand up to blatant abuse from politicians who seek to mislead and distract the public.”

    That’s exactly the way I’ve felt for the last decade or so. Not nice when the boot’s on the other foot though, is it, Mickey Boy?


  298. Pointman says:

    An interesting man. Given the times, I’m amazed he ever got any access to the media. It would be good to read a balanced account of his life. I read his own book and would recommend it, whatever your feelings about him.


  299. Walt O'Bruin says:

    Here’s the end to the wind farms altogether, IMHO. Right out the UK, too, from the PowerFuels folks and B9 Coal plc:

    It’s worth downloading the latest Carbon Capture Journal just to have a gander at Alisa Murphy, managing director for B9. Makes Anne Hathaway look like Petunia Pig LOL If I were their keyman insurance provider, I would have a heart attack, but it probably is a dummy pick from a modeling agency: the real Alisa is five feet tall, 200 lbs with warts, and rides a Harley.

    Anyway, between this and onsite steel refinery Bessemer-era steam-transported CO2 at the sealed crucible mouth to make H2 and CO just as Manchester and Birmingham steel works used to make the town gas for lighting in the 1880’s through the 1920’s, it’s the long drop for wind. No reason for the debt load and the effingn fings don’t work to spec.

    What a trip. Shoulda walked. LOL

    Watch it get interesting. Never been a good hand for following scripts. That’s why I write them, I expect. BTW, Mickey don’t live here no more. Hasn’t for years. Scared to death as C-ville is Republican territory with a flopsy-mopsy cottontail greentard component to keep UVa student levels up and the tuition revenues safe.

  300. Walt O'Bruin says:

    The PowerFuels prototype will do the trick for elimination of underground carbon sequestration, too. CCS doesn’t stand for carbon capture and sequestration: it stands for champagne communists with servants.

  301. Amanda says:

    G’day All.
    I reckon that Pointman is a travelling man and thus he doesn’t like to give even ballpark coordinates, since they wouldn’t be right from one month to the next. I suppose he could explain that ‘I travel’, but so do a lot of people, yet they still have a base somewhere; and then he’d have to explain how his travel is different, which means giving details of what he does or how he keeps his parrot in birdseed; so he avoids the topic altogether by referring to ‘Wallawoora’, the state of mind or ideal that he carries around with him. Am I close, Pointman?

  302. Blackswan says:

    Pointman says:
    October 9, 2010 at 2:37 am

    Interesting link……..

    My favourite bit – “It was amateur bloggers who scented the exaggerations, distortions and corruptions in the climate establishment; whereas newspaper reporters, even after the scandal broke, played poodle to their sources.”

    In a nutshell.

  303. Blackswan says:


    As a swan who mostly doesn’t understand your “technical” stuff, does “AFC Energy’s technology converts hydrogen to emissions-free electricity at 60% electrical efficiency” mean what it appears to be?

    Nah, that would make life too simple.

  304. Walt O'Bruin says:

    Hi, Blackswan. Yes, it means what it says. The greentards should be having conniption fits over this. The point I have always tried to make clear is not any of the solutions on offer except such things as these 1980’s developed H2 fuel cells are any less than 100-125 years old, but for the digital controls. All that’s to come of this is when this takes the commercial lead as option of choice for utility coal burners, along with the various steel-making processes for co-production, and these achieve commercial efficacy in full, there will be no need nor even greentard bennies associated with wind, solar or the other budget breakers, and the various governments will have to cut them loose.

  305. Walt O'Bruin says:

    A typical battery has very high efficiency. The charging process is what sucks LOL

    It’s like your garden variety electric motor. 90-95% efficiency is not uncommon. Same with hydroturbines large and small, as water is incompressible.

  306. Amanda pointman is not from the South or the West as far as I have been able to make out, the whole more Irish than the Irish thing he has suggests Boston. Although who knows could be Skegness, he did mention he left a clue in his weighty tome he wrote a while back.

  307. Walt O'Bruin says:

    My idea is to make gigantic capacitors to charge up, one mile by one mile by one mile. The problem is, an unscheduled non-trickle discharge with one of them or a short between the plates, if that happened in Sydney, you would be able to see and probably hear the blue flash in Honolulu.

  308. Walt O'Bruin says:

    Free smouldering afro’s for everybody.

  309. Blackswan says:

    This is why Green/AGW policies matter…………

    “Sydney’s mortgage pain worse than NYC”

    “SYDNEYSIDERS spend more on their mortgage than families in London and even New York……The median Sydney house price is $626,444, with mortgage repayments of $4123 a month – three quarters the average monthly income.”

    With electricity prices soaring, food prices set to double (due to Green policies to cut food production in our Murray/Darling Rivers area), taxes and Govt charges exploding, many people are doing it really tough.

    Considering our dollar is almost at parity with the US$, how would Americans respond to having to pay almost a million bucks for the average suburban house?

    Rentals are the same. There is such a shortage in that market that rent costs more than a mortgage payment.

    In public housing, a Sydney woman was told the waiting list was out to 20 years for affordable housing, with the Govt concealing the homeless numbers by putting families up in motels, whole families to a room, and not counting them as “homeless” in the stats.

    The illegal boat people and visa over-stayers still keep pouring into the major cities under Labor policies.

    And still the Green/Labor/Socialists keep piling on the fees and charges for everything.

    Putting these cretins out of office matters – for many reasons, especially since their CAGW justification is a Fraud.

  310. Walt O'Bruin says:

    More of that there wang dang doodlysquat on that Michael Mann feller:

    Hyulk. Straight from Bag of Hammers University.

  311. Blackswan says:

    Well folks, it’s Official – we’re all gonna drown or frizzle in a drought, and it’s all because we won’t use the cold water cycle in the washing machine. Yikes, washing machines? We should all be squatting on a riverbank beating our clothes with stones.

    “The volume of fresh water pouring from the world’s rivers has risen rapidly since 1994, in what researchers say is further evidence of global warming.”

  312. Blackswan says:


    The Comments on the Mann link are interesting. How can Cuccinelli succeed if his source documents have been declared flawed? Curious.

  313. Well I’m going to hell some nice poster on Damian T’s blog was asking people to give their real name I told him I was Bruce Wayne I honestly think he believes it’s my real name. Into the bat cave I go.

  314. Blackswan says:

    For those who are interested, this story gives a background to the tug-o-war over who owns the rights to Govt-declared Carbon Sinks………

    The wild rivers swindle

    State and federal governments are accused of stealing carbon credits from their rightful owners

    AS with all mighty river systems, the headwaters of anguish over Queensland’s Wild Rivers protection laws that have swept from Cape York to Canberra can be traced back through myriad seemingly unrelated tributaries.

    And this in a country without an Emissions Trading Scheme which wants to declare a Carbon Price of $27 a tonne (Greens policy) when it’s trading for cents on the CCX.

    Go figure.

  315. Blackswan says:


    Do you have a young masked boy waiting for you in that cave?
    Always thought that premise was weird.

    That, the body stocking and leather bondage mask…

    It’s a worry. Holy gaydar warning! – Oz

  316. Blackswan says:

    “TASMANIA’S timber industry has agreed to phase out native forest logging.”

    The plantation timber industry is all well and good, but on my travels I’ve seen huge swathes of cleared farmland, once pastures for sheep & cattle or for food crops, now used in these plantations.

    Such intensive hardwood production requires huge quantities of herbicides and pesticides as well as the prolific use of 1080 poisons to destroy foraging animals. This highly toxic chemical cocktail getting into the water-table has been linked to cancer-clusters and immune system related diseases in regional towns dependent on that drinking-water supply – has even been linked to the Tasmanian Devils fatal Facial Tumour disease that threatens their existence in the wild.

    The effects of CAGW Fraud keep multiplying.

  317. Dr. Dave says:


    I read your diatribe about housing costs. The solution is simple: pain. Yep…folks have to feel the pain for real and make the appropriate associations. There is no way in the world I would live anywhere in Hawaii, NYC, Santa Barbara, California, Boston or Chicago. Housing costs are just ridiculous. The wise move on. The problem is that it’s becoming more difficult to vote with your feet.

    People make a big deal of Texas not having an income tax. Believe me, this is no great shakes. They simply make up the difference in property taxes. The state gets their money one way or another. I moved from Texas to New Mexico over 15 years ago. I bought a house of half the size but 50% greater tax value. My property taxes and insurance were nearly cut in half. However, I paid through the nose for state income tax and local and state sales taxes and my auto insurance premiums increased by 50%. In the end it was about a wash except that utilities and food are more expensive here…but the air is sweeter and the scenery is fantastic.

    In the US the federal government is working overtime to prevent people from voting with their feet. It’s almost a “no escape” policy. Everyone makes their own choices. Me…I live in a relatively small town (about 60,000) that’s surrounded by open spaces and mountains. There is a major city (Albuquerque) just one hour away for utility purposes. At 7,000 ft above sea level it never gets too cold or too warm here. The altitude is too high for mosquitoes (and it gets too cold for scorpions). It gets damn cold (like mountain winter cold) at times in the winter and a couple of weeks in the start of summer it gets pretty warm in the day (like 100 degrees F), but most of the time it is temperate. We don’t get flooding, tornadoes, hurricanes or earthquakes. We have to contend with the occasional drought and forest fire but that’s about it. However, there is a price to paid to live in this “paradise”. You either pay it or you move on.

    I am fortunate. I traded a good chunk of my youth to do what I do for a living. I can live almost anywhere I want and earn a living. For most this is not the case. They have to bloom where they’re planted. The only answer is to get government out of our lives to the extent possible. Until this happens, most of remain slaves.

  318. Blackswan says:

    G’day Dr Dave

    Most certainly do remain slaves – to the Banks & Govt.

    The illusion of Free Choice is about whether to have fries with that. Everything else is a chimera. Ah well, we bought it – I guess we live with it….

    ……unless we move to the high country of New Mexico or the craggy wilds of Tasmania. Such a balm to the soul makes the livin’ easier.

    As you rightly say, it’s those who are “stuck” with their lot in life who will pay the most in the end.

  319. Edward says:


    G’day Aus,

    Don’t know if you’ve read this but you might want to have a look.

    “3. In the interim the ClimateGate scandal broke into the news, and the machinations of the principal alarmists were revealed to the world. It was a fraud on a scale I have never seen, and I lack the words to describe its enormity. Effect on the APS position: none. None at all. This is not science; other forces are at work.”

    From: Hal Lewis, University of California, Santa Barbara



  320. Beria Bear says:

    Blackswan says:
    October 9, 2010 at 8:05 am

    The judge approved thoroughly with Cooch that the AG’s office’s charter included screening government expenditures including grants for irregularities and fraud, while at the same time saying that as the very UVa documents on which his case was based UVa did not have to surrender in toto.

    This is all part and parcel of the core moral and ethical reasons why the South took so long to recover after the Civil War. Outlaws are heroes there.

    This is also an abject example of the first fruits of the New Left, that matters of due diligence and procedures are to be routinely brushed aside to accommodate ideological purity and government by fiat and fait accompli. To expand on this, Komrades, I find it highly Nixonian and Beria-like that so much emphasis now is being placed on InterNet security at every turn and the State’s expression of a need to know concerning standard e-mail correspondence. Coupled with the oddities associated with the DT blogspace and other subtle thought control manipulations, you don’t suppose that reverse McCarthyism is now being deployed in the runup to the Nov 3 Congressional elections, and just prior to the major court cases to be heard respecting, for example, AGW and its impact on Hurricane Katrina and the presumed liability of all the major energy firms for its occurrence?

    Tovariches, perhaps there is a nice camping holiday in the winter in Siberia on the books for us soon where we can engage in healthy exercise such as aerobic woodcutting?

    Seriously, I wonder to what extent a litigious pigbreath could make a case against us as engaging in activities in some way, shape or form as illegal within the framework of the type justice dispensed (or rather dispensed with) in the Mikey Unmanned case.

    I also agree with one commentator at the C-ville who said the State vs. Mann case is not as significant as what is going on in relation to the George Mason alleged scientific fraud case. What is at issue there is the accreditation of the school itself, which is serious business indeed. For George Mason University to take it in the head as fraudsters would set a very useful precedent for those on our side of the fence.

    It could all end up with everyone I blog to here and the rest of the realist community (I’m not a sceptic, I only want proof provided according to generally acceptable scientific principles, which has yet to be provided) going through the type systematic internal exile my parents experienced during the blacklisting years, which ended in 1976.

    That’s what the here and now smells like.

  321. Beria Bear says:

    There isn’t the slightly boozy, generous, good-humoured and sharp-witted sense of the infinite possibilities of existence left alive in C-ville now, either, as was the case in 2003-2005. It feels like an abandoned strip mall with two guards to every retail customer.

  322. Beria Bear says:

    Thanks for the post, Edward.

    Hal Lewis makes me proud to be an American. How can I buy him a drink? LOL

  323. Beria Bear says:

    Ooooo. Synchronicity again, NoIdea. Remember Gary Cooper’s machinegun in the “For Whom The Bell Tolls” finale I posted yesterday? It was a Lewis gun. And I just came from Binghamton, NY, Rod Serling’s hometown.

  324. Edward says:

    Beria Bear says:
    October 9, 2010 at 10:36 am

    You’re most welcome comrade!

    How’s life in the Lubyanka?

    NKVD/OGPU – they were a bunch of operators.


  325. Blackswan and ozboy a victim of my own joke and it would be into the batcave with catwoman.

  326. Dr. Dave says:


    Mornin’ ya’ll. I’ve gone piggy at the jukebox. Make sure you check out the Sonia Dada offerings. BTW…this is a wonderful idea. I’ve enjoyed the eclectic mix of stuff.


  327. Edward says:

    I wonder if there is a PC name for ‘the Caped Crusader’?


  328. Edward says:

    The UK gov’ is still trumpeting AGW and as a consequence provision for cold winters in Britain was always haphazard.
    Then it got wet and warm thanks to the PDO and we just forgot about the fact that we are 50deg’s+ north.
    So councils replete with global warming officers and holding fast the gov’ line of; “snow is a thing of the past”. Saved money and grit, now the weather is returning to winter and proper winters at that, some of the councils maybe are breaking ranks……?

    Another breach in the dyke?


  329. Blackswan says:

    Edward says:
    October 9, 2010 at 10:30 am

    WOW!! – indeed.

    I have bookmarked that page and the next know-it-all smart-a*se who walks in my door with the attitude that my CAGW beliefs are those of an ignorant old fart, can take a print-out of that letter home with them (along with my shoe-print on their backsides).

    I’m so fed-up with justifying my attitude in the face of such group-think attached to CAGW Fraud that I’ll let my new best-pal Hal Lewis do it for me.

    Hal, my hero, who mounts a far more erudite argument than I ever could.

    Thanks Ed – Brilliant.

  330. Blackswan says:


    “perhaps there is a nice camping holiday in the winter in Siberia on the books for us soon where we can engage in healthy exercise such as aerobic woodcutting?”

    Here in the wilds of Northern Antarctica, such aerobic exercise would be a snap for the likes of Ozboy. He seems to like chopping wood in the snow and wind to keep those fires in the Bar & Grill stoked.

    It’ll be interesting to see what they have in store for the rest of us.

  331. Blackswan says:

    Edward says:
    October 9, 2010 at 11:08 am


    Didn’t I read somewhere during your last snowed-in winter that people who attempted to clear snow and ice might find themselves sued and liable for damages if someone ultimately got injured?

    They’d better make up their minds about that.

    Stay warm Ed – if our cold conditions are any indicator, you’ll need two pairs of wool sox.

  332. Amanda says:

    Dr Dave: I’ll second that: the property taxes in Texas are murder. Just off the charts. And half of it, on my house in Houston — about $4500 unless it went up and I don’t recall — was the for the lousy local school district. This per year. Can you imagine? All the taxes that went to the public good in obvious ways — fire, police, roads etc. — were much, much less. What do you think the school board was doing with all its extra largesse?

  333. Amanda says:

    Sorry, that would be more than half of it. I resented the school board’s impositions/robbery more than anything else. Especially when I missed a payment the first year (it had been broken up into two and I only knew about the first) resulted in absolute silence followed by a $450 fine for non-payment. They didn’t bother to inform me of the missed payment and then charged me heavy interest months later for not paying. I wrote the mayor, my Congressmen: to no avail. It was an obvious money-grab. One reason I was so eager to get out of Texas.

  334. Amanda says:

    correction: my Representative (singular) in the House, typically called ‘Congressman’ by Americans even though both Senators and Representatives serve in, and constitute, the Congress.

  335. Blackswan says:


    “into the batcave with catwoman.”

    Careful son, according to our resident catwoman, she can take the skin off your face with her tongue.

  336. Blackswan says:

    For any petrol-heads about, this weekend sees our epic annual Motor Race – The Mount Panorama Bathurst V8 Supercar Race – being run in regional NSW, west of Sydney.

    For die-hard enthusiasts, internet TV streaming is available on

    Gotta love that smell of high octane racing fuel in the mornin’…

    The Greens are apoplectic. Can’t do better than that!

  337. Beria Bear says:

    Edward says:
    October 9, 2010 at 10:47 am

    I’d like to say the OGPU, NKVD and KGB were massively different in terms of their economic philosophy from us decadent Westerners, but the plain fact of all intelligence work globally is that its workforce are best used and most commonly rewarded with medals and promotions for spotting national-level long-term economic opportunities, not identifying threats to the state. We in the USA are quite open about this: if you go to the CIA Website, you will find that it best fills the bill as an economic geographer’s paradise of stat’s, maps, trends and projections in the money-making spheres.

    This is why, I think, Mr. Unmanned crackled slimily out of his “Aliens” egg in Charlottesville, for almost 200 years the true epicentre of American intelligence “trended” operations and training, both military and civilian. Methinks the entire carbon fraud originated there at the National Ground Intel Centre and the various foreign service institutes here. That’s also why he’s not dangling by his gonads from the giant oak tree in front of the Mudhouse coffeeshop on the Mall: he has one of those invisible thingies they used to call a “home-free card.”

    Not to worry. This Alien Queen will meet his Ripley yet: Mega-cargoloader suit by Caterpillar.

  338. Beria Bear says:


    Zooooom! Looks like fun.

  339. Beria Bear says:

    Blackswan says:
    October 9, 2010 at 11:23 am

    Iz goot exaircise, Komrade! Bwahahahaha!

    When I was a kid back during the Stone Age, I learned axework standing in a galvanized tin washbasin so I wouldn’t hit my shinbone if the blade bounced from a bad aim. Got to be a bit of a dented basin after two seasons. Puts hair on your whatever after a bit.

    Don’t really need the buckets if the sap has drained into the roots for the winter around December or January or so in the Northern Hemisphere. The blade bites good then. Pine is always a pain year-round though. Stick to deciduous. Burns better, anyway. I don’t like tree sap in a stove or fireplace. Hard to clean up afterwards, and doesn’t always burn, it just coats everything.

  340. Beria Bear says:

    I fink I’ll post this at the C-Ville online newspaper comments section, heh, heh.

  341. Blackswan says:

    Beria Bear

    “Stick to deciduous.”

    Better break out that old tin tub Bear if you go “wood-hooking” in Australia.
    Giant evergreen eucalypt hardwoods are worthy opponents to any axeman.
    The first white “settlers” arrived here with their European axes and saws and were confounded when the tools were demolished in double-quick time.

    I have no doubt Oz uses a chainsaw but he’s still got to split ’em for the fireplace.

    Our trees shed their bark instead of their leaves and in drought will unexpectedly shed whole limbs – hence their reputation as “widow-makers”.

    Those Siberians are pussies…lol

  342. Blackswan says:

    Gee Bear, if you post that comment you’ll be moving to the back-blocks of Tassie sooner than you think. Better than taking that tin tub all the way to Siberia.

  343. Beria Bear says:

    Wow, guys, look what the IPCC / GWPF is running in the way of news LOL! This is wonderful. It’s all imploding as budgets are pulled, etc., etc.

    Even IPCC are doleful respecting the prospects of “progress” at the forthcoming meeting in Machinegun Alley, Mexico. Fearless Leader will not be pleased…..

  344. Amanda says:

    Bear: I like maple syrup. Is that at all relevant to the discussion? Why is my wine glass empty? Should I ask that in public? heh heh heh

  345. Beria Bear says:

    Those Siberians are pussies…lol

    You may be right, Blackswan. I don’t recall any mention of them invading any place since Genghiz Khan or was it Attila the Grape or whatever?

    Since they went their own way, they seem to be making a go of it with their natural resources. NOT with timber sales, though LOL Mostly oil and natural gas and other minerals.

  346. Amanda says:

    By the way Walt (since you are in America too): have you ever tried It’s Arthur’s Fault?
    Fantastic marinades and dressings, and I just bought a bunch of caramel sauces for Mr A’s birthday on the 14th. (The day Constantinople fell, though in which calendar, I don’t know.) One of them is a maple caramel sauce and that’s why I thought of it.

  347. Amanda says:

    That was probably even more boring than my last post. By god I’ve been giving this keyboard a workout! Cheers.

  348. Beria Bear says:

    Amanda says:
    October 9, 2010 at 2:28 pm

    Sure, it’s a legitimate and oft-times important question to ask in public.

    If you like maple syrup, and you like ze booze, and you need coffee and a hair of the dog wot bit ya the morning after, Sortilege, l’eau de vie, or Quebec maple syrup brandy (why do they call it whisky here, I wonder) in your coffee in the morning will perk you right up. Not so hot over pancakes LOL I also like the traditional Quebec fruit brandies, which are totally unsweetened and simply purely distilled from the fruit itself, and has been for 400 years.

    The maple syrup brandied coffee is smashing on freezing Montreal mornings in one’s thermos on the tube whilst reading the Gazette or on the train in from the suburbs. The commuter trains still have the marvelous fat red leather seats you might remember from days of yore. I think they were abandoned in the States because people would put pencils and knives through them just to be mental or animalic.

  349. Beria Bear says:

    It’s not boring. Nice food is…nice.

  350. Beria Bear says:

    I do mean smashing, too. It’s embarrassing to walk directly into a concrete and steel column as you step off the train at 8 am. Hurts, too.

  351. Beria Bear says:

    In French Canada, the natives don’t normally drink these liqueurs straight from a glass unless they are explaining on a sunny afternoon at the kitchen table to a cousin or business partner exactly and in exhaustive detail what is going to happen to them if they persist in whatever behaviour of which the complainant disapproves.

  352. Beria Bear says:

    If Starbucks got a liquor licence for solely these products as mixers with their coffee, there would be no other coffee houses, if they could somehow keep other vendors from doing the same. They make truly awful coffee the elixir of the gods, in terms of taste alone.

    Actually, if there were non-alcoholic versions of this Jekyll juice available, that would be enough to get their market share back. As it is, they import all these mixers and flavours from other continents, when the best stuff is made on this one, for coffee mixers.

  353. Beria Bear says:

    Amanda, it would be really funny if you were Fabian Solutions.

  354. Beria Bear says:

    I think in less than three years you will be required to have thumbprint ID for every blog post all through the Net. Watch them come out with that sort of gizmo as a mandatory to spike new computer sales and force everyone to throw away their existing ones.

    In the interests of national security, of course.


  355. Ozboy says:

    G’day folks,

    You can continue the AGW discussion here for a bit. I have a new post – something a bit different – here.



  356. suffolkboy says:

    @fenbeagle, nnsher, *Bear
    Do I take it that the person you refer to is this one[1]? If so does he have an affinity to the UK Official Monster Raving Loony Party[2], whose leader was, IIRC, at the time of his death the longest-serving UK Party Member?

  357. Amanda says:

    Walt: Maple syrup brandied coffee: I’m not sure whether that would wake me up or make me all soft and cosy. Possibly both!

  358. Amanda says:

    ‘Candy is dandy but liquor is quicker’. Not Shakespeare.

  359. Amanda says:

    Walt, if I had been Failing Locutions — and there’s no way I could keep it up, Fen was anyway thoroughly unimpressed with my have-a-go at trolling — you’d then have to ask which person was genuine: the Commie or the Freedom-Lover. Fortunately for everyone, it’s the latter.

  360. Amanda says:

    Walt: ‘It’s nice to be nice to the nice’? (chuckle).

  361. Amanda says:
    October 10, 2010 at 2:09 am

    Just teasing. I know better. That would be like Santa Claus being a serial killer who wears red so the blood won’t show LOL

    Quebec maple syrup brandied coffee does have that exact effect. All rev’d up, yet mellow. The fruit brandies are nice, especially the peach brandies. Nothing like the sugared and I think fusel oil-impregnated peach brandies sold under major labels here in the States which are normally associated with those who drink Aqua Velva as an alternative.

  362. Suffolk Boy,

    That’s him, alright. Lost job, off meds, living in mum’s basement, end of story.

  363. Amanda, I can’t get the picture of those truffles out of my mind LOL The ones with the pecans sticking out of them.

  364. Amanda says:

    Walt at 3:43 LOL giggle LOL I don’t know why. Giggle.

  365. Amanda says:

    That would be like Santa Claus being a serial killer who wears red so the blood won’t show LOL

    Great analogy! I’d make a terribly unconvincing Leftist. If Leftism were The Wizard of Oz and I were auditioning, not only would I not get the part of Judy Garland (or whatever her character is), they wouldn’t even cast me as Toto or a flying monkey. I’d be Tree No. 3 and told to shut up.

  366. It’s good to giggle in a world gone mad! Bwahahahahaha! Just kidding… Thought you’d like this….

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